Bi-turbo Lag....is It To Do With Regen?

DaveF

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Every time my van is about to do a regen, or just after a regen, the turbo lag is horrendous. I've tried changing gear quickly / slowly but nothing works, I just lose all torque for a few seconds then it's back.

Is this just mine? My previous T5.1 Bi-Turbo didn't suffer from this at all (no AdBlue either) and I'm wondering if it's the regen or if it's something to do with the mapping?
 
Every time my van is about to do a regen, or just after a regen, the turbo lag is horrendous. I've tried changing gear quickly / slowly but nothing works, I just lose all torque for a few seconds then it's back.

Is this just mine? My previous T5.1 Bi-Turbo didn't suffer from this at all (no AdBlue either) and I'm wondering if it's the regen or if it's something to do with the mapping?
Not noticed it on mine
 
During regen diesel is injected on the exhaust stroke to do the burn in the dpf, I would thought that would have reduced turbo lag not cause it??
Unless it's just the upset to balance and overall mixture that you notice?
 
During regen diesel is injected on the exhaust stroke to do the burn in the dpf, I would thought that would have reduced turbo lag not cause it??
Unless it's just the upset to balance and overall mixture that you notice?


You may be right @Loz but it definitely seems to do it around that time (just before and just after regen). The big problem is my total lack of faith with the local dealer....I just know they'd say there's nothing wrong or they can't find a fault.
 
They are more likely to fob you off with the "It's a characteristic of the vehicle sir!" answer which is one up from "They all do that Sir!".
 
I don't get that on mine...

Did you say yours was mapped?
 
You may be right @Loz but it definitely seems to do it around that time (just before and just after regen). The big problem is my total lack of faith with the local dealer....I just know they'd say there's nothing wrong or they can't find a fault.

I think most dealerships will say there's nothing wrong unless an obvious code is detected, or it's an obvious fault when on road test.
The tech's are under so much pressure with the day to day work they get booked in, that intermittent fault finding on a vehicle that's still under warranty just doesn't justify the potential hours spent trying to find a fault, if there actually is one.
I wouldn't let things like that put you off your dealership, just see it as standard main dealer politics, and wait for an actual fault to show it's ugly head.

Although this won't help: Mine re-gens almost daily and I don't notice any adverse effects with either power or economy during these cycles.
 
I think most dealerships will say there's nothing wrong unless an obvious code is detected, or it's an obvious fault when on road test.
The tech's are under so much pressure with the day to day work they get booked in, that intermittent fault finding on a vehicle that's still under warranty just doesn't justify the potential hours spent trying to find a fault, if there actually is one.
I wouldn't let things like that put you off your dealership, just see it as standard main dealer politics, and wait for an actual fault to show it's ugly head.

Although this won't help: Mine re-gens almost daily and I don't notice any adverse effects with either power or economy during these cycles.


I hear what you're saying....it's disappointing that the first place to get advice is here rather than from the dealer though eh?
 
ours regen about 2/3 times per tank of fuel.

if you only every do short journeys and keep interrupting the regen process it will keep trying every drive cycle until its complete, or it will give you the yellow DPF light of dread.

also low fuel levels will stop the regens, it needs to be above 1/4.


How to reset/regenerate/clear your DPF warning light (Diesel Particulate Filter)



How to reset/regenerate/clear your DPF warning light (Diesel Particulate Filter)
How it works and why the light may come on

The Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) is part of your exhaust and controls the 'soot' that would otherwise be expelled from the system. You may have noticed that modern diesels no longer leave you in a cloud of smelly black smoke when they accelerate off.

The filter collects a certain amount of these harmful deposits and then burns them off at an extremely high temperature (450 degrees c). In normal driving this will happen without you being aware but on continued short journeys the particals can build up and remain 'stuck' in the system. It's at this point the warning light will come on and your intervention is required.

How to clean, clear and reset (regenerate) the system

You should drive your vehicle for approximately 15 minutes keeping the engine revs between 2000 - 2500 rpm. This is probably best done on an A road. Keep the car in a lower than normal gear (use 'S' on an automatic) in order to keep the revs up.

What happens if I ignore the light?

The simple answer is DON'T! If you continue to drive and simply hope the light will go off (which it won't) you risk two things. Firstly the filter will become so blocked it can no longer be cleared, even by your dealer. It won't be covered by warranty and you'll have no change from £600+. Worse still the Cat/DPF will get so hot in it's attempt to burn off the soot, it can catch fire!

I've tried but the light won't go out

When the filter reaches a certain percentage full it can no longer clean itself and neither can you by driving in the correct style. At this point the vehicle must be taken to a VW dealer (See - "What happens if I ignore the light")

I've got more than one warning light on

If the Emmission Control Light and/or the Engine Managment warning light come on at the same time as the DPF there's a more serious fault. At this point you should contact your recovery company or Volkswagen Assistance on 0800 777192 if your VW is under 1 year old (Phaeton & Touareg have a 3 year breakdown
 
@Dellmassive I'm not having any problems with regen (no warning lights or anything). I drive 32 miles to work every morning, all dual-carriageway and at a steady 70 (ish!) so I don't think I'm going to have any problems with regen. What I'm suffering with is the flat-spot as I accelerate. This appears to be happening around regen time, but I might be imagining that! I've not had any warning lights at all.
 
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