Home smart-meter utility engineer checks whole house and condemns
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Anybody who’s tried to improve a properties EPC rating lately might have found that night storage heaters are back in fashion but they aren’t cheap to install.
It would be nice to have a bit of consistency in the governments energy policy.
It would be nice to have a bit of consistency in the governments energy policy.
Looks dangerous, just getting over the 5G Covid, far worse than the normal type.
The energy suppliers already do that.
....ah, but meters will allow them do it more dynamically!
Explain that one please?
just in the process of buying another house / bungalow in the foothills of the lincolnshire wolds ( no mains gas etc)
currently has leccy fire in lounge, leccy fire in dining room, and storage heaters throughout, and a immersion heater n cyclinder for the hot water?
was thinking of ragging all out, sticking oil fired boiler in n new heating system, or maybe going down the air source pump system, BUT, as your post above? that could be very handy and save me the best part of 10k +
current EPC is E rated ( which just about suits as im slapping straight out to rent for a few years) but told with a bit of work could hit a C ( expensive work)
how does the recomendations work there?
I’ve had a couple of dealings with EPC assessors, it appears that the E in EPC has bugger all to do with the environment but more to do with running costs for the end user.Explain that one please?
just in the process of buying another house / bungalow in the foothills of the lincolnshire wolds ( no mains gas etc)
currently has leccy fire in lounge, leccy fire in dining room, and storage heaters throughout, and a immersion heater n cyclinder for the hot water?
was thinking of ragging all out, sticking oil fired boiler in n new heating system, or maybe going down the air source pump system, BUT, as your post above? that could be very handy and save me the best part of 10k +
current EPC is E rated ( which just about suits as im slapping straight out to rent for a few years) but told with a bit of work could hit a C ( expensive work)
how does the recomendations work there?
Be very careful with the work you carry out, IMO it’s best to pay for a new assessment (circa 50 quid) as the formula is ‘evolving’ all the time and will continue to do so. Be aware that the recommendations are sequential (read up on this).
I have a rental property with new on demand electric panel heaters with timers and thermostats, pretty efficient as can be fine tuned for each room. Believe it or not the EPC rating is not as good as if it had modern electric storage heaters running on an off peak tariff. The assessor agreed that the new storage heaters are inefficient as although there is some degree of control the energy is consumed regardless of the next days requirements.
If you’re looking to rent a property the minimum legal requirement is EPC E, this will change in the next couple of years so either there will be a shortage of rental property in a couple of years or the Gov’ will do a U turn.
Regarding oil fired boilers, I have an old Worcester that I’ve refurbished and got running sweet. At some point I need to replace it with what????? My house is 450 years old in a conservation area, air or ground source heat pumps won’t cut it, solar isn’t permitted. Where’s the ‘kin plan Boris?
cheers for the reply
latest EPC was 6 weeks ago when it hit the market, put in a cash offer before even looking at it to get pulled from sale
all in the hands of solicitors n surveyors at the minute with an end april completion date
thinking a full redec, leave heating as is and rent out whilst still permissable
all persons wanting to live in the location of the property, will be aware of the desirability of the place, and the lack of services etc, and will still be more than happy
ps
it does not help having a 16yr old eco green warrior as a son and a 14yr like for like daughter, who both despise the idea of an oil fired boiler, as opposed to the airsource route
after explaining the 6 k difference in cost between the 2 and the effect on their inheritance, they still do not see the error of their ways lol
maybe moneys not everything eh ??
plus, in 5yrs time, there is a chance i will knock the thing to the ground and either sell the plot barebacked, or stick a 4 bed detached on it ( a very sympathetic build) to the area, and have this as my retirement location, so ideally dont want to install everything then bin it after a few years
I've been through that, next time they want a lift somewhere there's a simple response.
"Sadly I can't help, your journey is non essential and in light of that, does not justify the carbon emissions that would result from it, I'm only thinking of the planet and your future, like you wanted me to."
Be very careful with air source, on paper it looks great but in real life it can be very expensive to run and unreliable in cold weather.
Unless a new build with fantastic insulation and under floor heating you may well find your self ripping it out in a few years.
Unless a new build with fantastic insulation and under floor heating you may well find your self ripping it out in a few years.
did actully hear that from someone else, also the requirement for oversize ally rads as opposed to std steelies
and there was the suggestion of having a secondry heat source available for when it gets too cold, as the efficiency struggles?
Been there with my oldest daughter, I did 25 years in the oil industry and apparently it’s all my fault. Nothing to do with her driving the 3/4 mile to school everyday then
This. Commercial electric is all on half hour meters. I remember my rate at 4PM on a November afternoon was about £2.20/unit, down to 0.5p overnight though. They'll bring timed pricing into domestic. When BG launched smart meters a few years ago, they had a smart meter tariff with some offer or the other based on half hour pricing.
I'm on a UK power project, amongst other things, at the moment. The projections for power requirements for the next 10-20 years onwards are frightening. At the moment there is a surplus of electricity at night. In 2028ish this turns into a deficit, and it therefore becoming more expensive than day rate, with the projected switch from ICE cars to electric and the bulk of overnight charging. Add on move away from domestic gas to air/ground source heatpumps and the load is mind boggling. The solution (which hasn't been invented yet, is not even on the cards or had any thought) is remote control of cars' charging times in phases overnight, and starting late in the evening. As a colleague said, "it will be like everyone having their electric showers on for several hours every evening". The ultimate answer is a smart grid, but that is a generation (no pun intended) away.
The circulating water is low temperature hence the need for a much greater surface area. Really only suitable for brand new ultra insulated houses.
The government puts the initiative of private companies to roll out the Green plan and guess what.....the company sales people come up with some misleading alternative facts to get the installations sold.
Really we just need to harden up a bit and wear more clothes if we are cold, not much central heating in New Zealand and they survive ok.
There are plenty of countries where power is not available 24/7, they also have space programmes, nuclear weapons and huge palaces. What we probably need are more meetings with focus groups waffling at career civil servants....not.
I rent out my old house and the energy company decided they wanted to fit a smart meter which I allowed. The fitter decided that the hob was unsafe and so disconnected the entire gas supply leaving the tenants with no heating or hot water. I had to pay a separate gas engineer to come along and reconnect it and then get a new hob fitted later (one burner probably needed cleaning). Being remote and working through an ineffective agent I had little choice but to suck that up, but I was not particularly happy about it!
Surely you would have had that picked up on your yearly gas safe landlords certificate though, we got caught on a folded flexible gas hose to the oven and gas meter supported by the incoming gas pipe one year so costly or not it's better than blowing some poor bugger up.
Interesting article on smart meters that might not be so good at saving you money;
www.dailymail.co.uk
Suppliers charged up to 14p a day to rent out smart meters
Energy providers have to pay several companies when providing smart meters to customers, known as Meter Asset Providers.
