T6.1 Cigarette Lighter fuse

Mike G

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Both the cigarette lighter on the centre console and the one on the top of the dash have stopped working on my 2020 T6.1 (We use it for an electric tyre pump which works fine in another car). I have looked at previous posts and fuse diagrams but can not find a failed fuse. The ones in the compartment to the right of the steering wheel that I pulled out all worked. I have looked under the passenger seat but can only see wires and nothing that looks like a fuse. I asked at our local VW garage and they would charge a £170 diagnostic fee to identify the problem. Suggestions gratefully received. Thank you IMG_5681.jpeg
 
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Thank you - that is a great resource. I found the fuses for my 2020 T6.1 too. But still could not find the cigarette lighter fuse.
 
Is your van a conversion?

The reason I ask is the picture you posted of the wiring looks like the coupling connectors between the front and rear looms - normally those would be in frames under the seat with the fuse carriers as well.

A common trick on conversions is to try and tuck those connectors and also the fuse blocks under the flooring to give more space in the seat bases - there is usually enough space in the wiring channel dips in the floor to do it.

So you might be looking for a fuse under the flooring.

If you're wondering why the wiring would even come back to that point the answer is in vans with a factory fit second battery it will be under the seat and those sockets are then fed from that battery, not the starter.
 
For comparison this is the passenger seat in my MY21 6.1 Caravelle (from the back looking forward) showing the angled frame for the loom couplers on the left and the frame for the fuse/relay carriers at the front.20230711_093811.JPG
 
This is the fuse/relay frame, if I recall correctly you're after the 2 20A yellow fuses, the 4 30A green fuses are for the towing electrics20230918_173726.JPG

If its been deconstructed then what you are looking for is this module, the give away might be to look for that substantial red cable that feeds it
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I always connect devices with heavy draw direct to the battery and earth either on the engine lift ring or bonnet slam. Can the fuse be uprated or is the wiring not up to that? Would it be better to rewire and fit a separate cig lighter that was up rated or perhaps use a different coupling altogether? I am sure that vehicles in the past had cig lighters with higher ratings!
 
Regardless of the fuse the physical plug can't sustain over 8A (100w) without overheating - hence the limits on most portable power packs using the format of input.

The culprit of frequently blown dash socket fuses is often the plug, especially the all in one USB converters, as they can have a sloppy fit and when the cable is pulled some can move around and bridge the centre contact to the side contacts in the socket.

Was such a pain in the old XC70 I ended up replacing the fuses with auto reset breakers (mostly because you could only get to the fuses by taking panelling off)
 
This is the fuse/relay frame, if I recall correctly you're after the 2 20A yellow fuses, the 4 30A green fuses are for the towing electricsView attachment 278707

If its been deconstructed then what you are looking for is this module, the give away might be to look for that substantial red cable that feeds it
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My 2022 T6.1 is the same as that under the passenger double seat.
 
Just to thank you all for your help. My T6.1 was converted by CamperKing. They suggested that fuse might be located under the passenger door side step - and indeed it was - hidden away right at the end.
I have now managed to replaced it and the cigarette lighters are working again!!
Thank you
 
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Just to thank you all for your help. My T6.1 was converted by CamperKing. They suggested that fuse might be located under the passenger door side step - and indeed it was - hidden away right at the end.
I have now managed to replaced it and the cigarette lighters are working again!!
Thank you
Ah yes I think we've seen someone else report that - it's not the most helpful place to tuck the electrics out of the way.

Those fuses often go as physically the plug is quite a sloppy fit and it's not unknown for the "tip" of the plug to short as it wobbles. If you find that happens a lot double check the fit of your devices.

You can also get self resetting circuit breakers. Don't just fit them if it happens a lot as it just masks the fault but I did end up using them on the 12v socket feeds in the XC70 as that had similarly hard to get to fuse locations and the occasional shorts from the satnav/phone chargers always happened in the middle of a big trip.

Example, not recommendation:

 
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