What’s my Kombi worth?
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I know this from experience when I was clocked at 67mph on a dual carriageway around 7 years ago! Focusses your attention somewhat, I knew I was in the wrong though. Was passing a wagon and couldn’t see the mobile van until it was too late!
I’m sorry that is incorrect, I have run many vans for years. As soon as it’s LGV on the log book other than a car derived van it’s:
Single 50mph
Dual 60mph
Motorway 70mph
Might save you a ticket one day!
Not sure this is true. If we are talking about a camper conversion.... General concensus seems to be the following from this thread: Campervan Conversions And Dvla ... Again
Then sorry, with the greatest respect and please dont take this the wrong way, but you have either misunderstood or not read the DVLAs statement.
As the DVLA have said over & over, speed limits depend on classification, not body type.
The body type field field does not depict the classification, only a visual description. They even explain it as "how the vehicle looks in traffic".
If your camper satisfies the criteria for a motor caravan, then thats what it is. Actually, its "if the owner is satisfied that it meets the criteria" which legally is less rigid. That is its classification.
They're not reclassifying it. They're changing the body type to more accurately depict what the vehicle looks like in traffic. This is all explained in their announcement. If your camper fully meets the 'motor caravan' spec, which doesnt exclude pop tops, then its a camper and car limits apply regardless of body type. They have emphasised this over & over! Not having a high roof and graphics does not now demote your poptop camper to a van, but they will not change the body type unless it does have them. Because visually, in traffic, with the poptop down, it looks like a van! Blame 'stealth' campers!
The problem comes when fully automated systems try to find the appropriate limit for a vehicle. Until now the body type was sufficient but as of now there is no facility for an online 100% confirmation in the case of a motor caravan. That is the problem
Cheers
Phil
If the logbook says LGV it’s van limits, simple.
Original post was asking the advantages of getting a van (LGV) reclassified by the DVLA to a camper.
The logbook would then say Motorcaravan meaning normal car limits would apply.
We are one of the lucky ones to have our T6 reclassified as a motorcaravan thus can drive at normal car limits. I have proven this many time’s driving past mobile camera vans at car speeds, where I live in York you see one every day without fail. Do the same in a normal van and you would get a nice letter in the post!
Jack that isnt right anymore.... Thats the old interpretation of the rules - DVLA have changed this since they tightened their interpretation of body type.If the logbook say LGV it’s van limits, simple.
Original post was asking the advantages of getting a van (LGV) reclassified by the DVLA to a camper.
The logbook would then say Motorcaravan meaning normal car limits would apply.
We are one of the lucky ones to have our T6 reclassified as a motorcaravan thus can drive at normal car limits. I have proven this many time’s driving past mobile camera vans at car speeds, where I live in York you see one every day without fail. Do the same in a normal van and you would get a nice letter in the post!
Read the thread i linked to (or even just the post). DVLA classification of BODY TYPE doesnt affect speed limits under the new interpretation of the rules. What matters wrt speed limits is whether your van meets the internal description of a campervan. Thats it. Logbook description no longer matters.
The issue is that automated cameras are still using body type +reg lookup to classify limits incorrectly. So you might get an automated ticket if you are doing 70 on a dual carriageway in a campervan (and you can prove it meets internal description of a campervan) BUT if you challenge this it should be cancelled.
Yes see what you mean but as usual seems a big grey area with the new rules.
Seems like there is a risk of having to go to court and prove your vehicle is a motorcaravan. If the vehicle is log booked as a motorcaravan then it is unlikely you would end up in court to argue. I would assume most police forces would cross check this with the DVLA before issuing a fine surely?
I’m certainly glad ours was reclassified before all this kicked off.
Handyman
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So where I am with this, if you have invested in a full blown camper conversion / motor caravan or what ever it is, then you should reap the benefits of car speed limits / tax if this is the case and your V5 should reflect the changes made.
However. if you choose to convert something different, then if it is classified as LGV then that is fine too.
As recently quoted, my van has been converted from a panel van in to what it is today, and it has a RIB crash tested 3 seated seat bed, and I can attach a awning to it so it can also be used as a camper van, but in name only.
However. if you choose to convert something different, then if it is classified as LGV then that is fine too.
As recently quoted, my van has been converted from a panel van in to what it is today, and it has a RIB crash tested 3 seated seat bed, and I can attach a awning to it so it can also be used as a camper van, but in name only.
It used to be having the usual items: sleeping/seating, cooking, water, windows, fixed table etc you could get Motorcaravan on the V5 no problem at all as many of us did.
Now the DVLA want you to demonstrate your vehicle is more obviously a camper with a fixed high top, graphics etc. Basically a motor home not a camper. Something very difficult to achieve in a T5/6 with a regular conversion type.
Advantages if you can achieve either:
Speed limits you are able to drive at car limits and have a rock solid way to argue your case. Grey area is you could have an LGV converted to a camper but not on paper and still argue your point in court and still win.
Tax This will never change and will always remain as the vehicle was registered, cheaper tax is a myth.
Insurance this should become cheaper as panel vans are more expensive to insure. However any decent specialist insurer (I.E not direct line etc) won’t be bothered what on the V5 its just about informing it them of its use, mileage and modifications.
HTH
I'm now waiting for my new T6.1 kombi to arrive and so looking at options of getting shot of old one. Its a 2010 LWB 140 with twin sliders. I've had it from new and has full VW service history. It will have a full MOT. I would say mechanically its 100%, bodywork could do with some TLC. Its my company van so is subject to VAT. I've had a price to trade in which I thought was OK. Van is not for sale now so please don't ask as I don't even have my build date yet but I'm guessing it will be November delivery
Here’s the spec in case anyone fancies putting a price to it. There’s no VAT
T32 SWB Kombi 204 DSG 4Motion Highline
2018
34000 miles
Starlight Blue
LED Lights
Comfort Dash
Captain Seats
Diff Lock
Tow bar Prep
Twin Sliding Doors with Power Latching
Tailgate with Power Latching
OEM Roofrails
80litre Fuel Tank
Factory Leisure Battery
Soundproofed
Carpet lined
App Connect
Rear Speakers
Composition Media System
Front and rear parking sensors
Reverse Camera
4 keys
18” Alloys with All Terrain Tyres
Led interior lighting also in tailgate
T32 SWB Kombi 204 DSG 4Motion Highline
2018
34000 miles
Starlight Blue
LED Lights
Comfort Dash
Captain Seats
Diff Lock
Tow bar Prep
Twin Sliding Doors with Power Latching
Tailgate with Power Latching
OEM Roofrails
80litre Fuel Tank
Factory Leisure Battery
Soundproofed
Carpet lined
App Connect
Rear Speakers
Composition Media System
Front and rear parking sensors
Reverse Camera
4 keys
18” Alloys with All Terrain Tyres
Led interior lighting also in tailgate
Possible sell via dealer 32/33k....private buyer. 28/29k ..but being 4 motion and it’s high spec could push the boat for more ..
Sell it as ..Ideal touring Stacation vehicle ( pay for more pictures in the add...everyone loves pictures) it will be sad to sell but just
another page in life’s Journey
Sell it as ..Ideal touring Stacation vehicle ( pay for more pictures in the add...everyone loves pictures) it will be sad to sell but just
another page in life’s Journey
Go through every single van on autotrader below and above your best guess at a price point. Buyers will be doing exactly the same, so you should be able to place it, in the same way that they will assess the comparable vans.
I believe they’re good for well over 200k miles if well maintained, but I don’t know what kind of offer would be realistic, any idea?
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