199 vs 204

[voltproof]

Hi,

looking to buy a caravelle, a local dealer recommends the 199 as it’s a better, newer generation engine and allegedly the 204 can suffer with reliability issues... any of it true? He’s got both a 199 and a 204 DSG vans for sale , roughly same spec and same money.

thank you

 

[boxerdog1]

I'm almost sure their is little difference - the reduction of 5ps I believe is purely due to additional emissions regulations and I've never heard many reports of reliability issues on the Euro 6 204ps engine. No doubt some of the better informed and more knowledgable folks on here can provide more info as I've only joined the Transporter clan this year .

 

[VanDamMan]

Hi,

looking to buy a caravelle, a local dealer recommends the 199 as it’s a better, newer generation engine and allegedly the 204 can suffer with reliability issues... any of it true? He’s got both a 199 and a 204 DSG vans for sale , roughly same spec and same money.

thank you

Umm..believe the 199 is essentially the same engine but detuned to meet emissions rules( 204)

as above ditto



quick update 199ps relates to the T6.1.....204ps T6 variations

 

[Tourershine]

allegedly the 204 can suffer with reliability issues...

Where do these statements come from

204 owner here and other than the common, cheap, easy to modify and replace EGR flexi-pipes, mine has been fault free for 80k and 3 years. I've also been a member on here for 3 years and frequent this place now and again, and i've never seen any recurring issues with the 204, other than the recurring comment on how good it is.

 

[Village]

If it’s a new van (the 204), make sure he’s got the WLTP derogation done for that van, so it can actually be registered. I got messed about by VW for 4 months on that and finally gave up when, after being promised “tomorrow” time and time again, they conceded it would be another 3 months. But I have no idea if this has now been solved

Edit to clarify: applies to 204 only; 199 is WLTP compliant

 

[Village]

quick update 199ps relates to the T6.1.....204ps T6 variations

Not entirely true. While there are no 204 T6.1’s, the last of the T6’s were 199ps, due to WLTP.

 

[VanDamMan]

Not entirely true. While there are no 204 T6.1’s, the last of the T6’s were 199ps, due to WLTP.

Cool

 

[voltproof]

Thank you all, very helpful, so sounds like is the same lump but remapped due to WLTP

 

[Village]

Yeah i think so, and with an extra cat too i believe

 

[JasonW]

Not entirely true. While there are no 204 T6.1’s, the last of the T6’s were 199ps, due to WLTP.

Yes, i bought one of the last T6's before the switch to 6.1 and its a 199

 

[voltproof]

In practice whatks the difference between t6 and t6.1?

 

[VDubnewby666]

Hi @Tourershine.
I have a 204 dsg and noted your comment “Other than the common, cheap, easy to modify and replace EGR flexi-pipes” - what is the easy fix for this, have you posted anything in the past on this?

 

[czmate1999]

Hi,

Mine is a 69 plate so its a 199 DSG. The power of it still surprises me - in a good way.

CZ.

 

[JasonW]

In practice whatks the difference between t6 and t6.1?

In what respect.. Driveabilty..? Functionality..? Aesthetics..?

As far as Im aware the T6 and T6.1 engines 199 are the same engine

 

[LakesT6]

Hi @Tourershine.
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EGR pipe: Exhaust Fumes In Cab, Hissing From Engine Bay.

I seem to have what I initially thought was an exhaust leak, but after further investigation sounds more like an air leak round the right rear back side of the engine. I wouldn't ordinarily be concerned and just get it into VW to looked at. (It's actually the first issue I've ever had with my...

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