Adblue range blank - No warnings

GenSixVelle

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Evening, I'm new to the forum and having had a good hunt around (hopefully thoroughly enough) I have not found another case of the I'm having with our caravelle.

Have had the van a few weeks now and noticed that the adblue range on the cluster menu isn't reading out a distance. Found it by chance in the menus today.

Tank is full, no warnings but not range provided.

Can anyone provide any insight please?
 
Most likely cause is that to save £000's on replacing various adblue bits the previous owner has had the foresight and sense to get it coded out!

The van now thinks there is no adblue system.
 
Yes, been mapped out perhaps? I had a Peugeot that did similar when I had it mapped out - the menu display was still there, but there was no range displayed.
 
Most likely cause is that to save £000's on replacing various adblue bits the previous owner has had the foresight and sense to get it coded out!

The van now thinks there is no adblue system.
Interesting, okay. Thank you. Something a garage or main dealer could confirm I assume after plugging into a diagnostic.
 
If can run without adblue probably a bonus.

Maybe run it for a while and see what happens.

Not had mine coded out so no idea.
 
If can run without adblue probably a bonus.

Maybe run it for a while and see what happens.

Not had mine coded out so no idea.
I have couple of things to look at. Still getting know the van. Bit of a clunk with front suspension that I think is probably bushes, but it has smelt hot a couple of times but oil temp is fine. We'll see.
 
The joys of a new van - I’m no expert but luckily there are lots of people here that can help.

Hope all goes well and you can sort it.

There are jobs on the van I would not even consider doing until joining here - now think I will give it a go or someone can advise.
 
I have couple of things to look at. Still getting know the van. Bit of a clunk with front suspension that I think is probably bushes, but it has smelt hot a couple of times but oil temp is fine. We'll see.
Not uncommon to get the ‘hot’ smell when the van is doing a dpf regen, have a search if your not sure what this is but basically the engine raises exhaust temperatures to burn off ash in the dpf filter, normally happens twice per tank of fuel (ish)
 
Welcome, this forum is a goldmine of helpful people and information, although there is a high chance that your wallet may suffer. Then again, it looks like you have already bought a Caravelle and it should have come with a wealth warning.

The ---- in the adblue range on the menu display probably is due to it being mapped out, that is what mine does after the adblue delete. I don't think there is a way of removing the adblue indication from the menu. If I recall correctly the adblue tank/pump/level detector are somewhere near below the fillers on the passenger side. They are covered by a shield but if you could get a look you'd probably find some unplugged wiring. It is an MOT fail if it is noticed, but currently an MOT does not involve delving into the menus or running tests to detect whether the adblue (or other emissions trickery) is working properly or at all. If the emissions, in which respect the lack of adblue is unlikely to have any significant effect, are OK then it passes that part of the test. It may have been mapped out without actually being faulty, but you won't know unless you try to restore it. Also, if it has been left with adblue in the system I have heard that it may crystallise and cause all sorts of (expensive) problems if you try to restore it into use.

The hot smell is likely, as mentioned already, to be a regeneration of the DPF. Mine has always seemed worse than others say. I get a regen every 120 to 180 miles, on a mixture of short and long runs. It is a heavy camper conversion if that makes a difference. There are useful apps available that in conjunction with a relatively cheap OBD reader can monitor what is happening with the DPF, have a search on the forum if interested. The OBD readers also open up opportunities to tweak settings and functions not available through the basic menus, and of course let you know about all the errors logged by the vehicle!

Never forget to appreciate the joy of owning and using the vehicle though :)
 
Welcome, this forum is a goldmine of helpful people and information, although there is a high chance that your wallet may suffer. Then again, it looks like you have already bought a Caravelle and it should have come with a wealth warning.

The ---- in the adblue range on the menu display probably is due to it being mapped out, that is what mine does after the adblue delete. I don't think there is a way of removing the adblue indication from the menu. If I recall correctly the adblue tank/pump/level detector are somewhere near below the fillers on the passenger side. They are covered by a shield but if you could get a look you'd probably find some unplugged wiring. It is an MOT fail if it is noticed, but currently an MOT does not involve delving into the menus or running tests to detect whether the adblue (or other emissions trickery) is working properly or at all. If the emissions, in which respect the lack of adblue is unlikely to have any significant effect, are OK then it passes that part of the test. It may have been mapped out without actually being faulty, but you won't know unless you try to restore it. Also, if it has been left with adblue in the system I have heard that it may crystallise and cause all sorts of (expensive) problems if you try to restore it into use.

The hot smell is likely, as mentioned already, to be a regeneration of the DPF. Mine has always seemed worse than others say. I get a regen every 120 to 180 miles, on a mixture of short and long runs. It is a heavy camper conversion if that makes a difference. There are useful apps available that in conjunction with a relatively cheap OBD reader can monitor what is happening with the DPF, have a search on the forum if interested. The OBD readers also open up opportunities to tweak settings and functions not available through the basic menus, and of course let you know about all the errors logged by the vehicle!

Never forget to appreciate the joy of owning and using the vehicle though :)
Thank you. Yes, not my first dabble in the world of VWs having previously had a T4 transporter, T5 Shuttle and a Caddy, and if I can carve out the time, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. Might see if there is a way to drain the adblue tank at some point.

I do have an OBD reader but it's several years old now and only reads codes so it might be die for an upgrade.
 
I would strongly suggest you don't ask them to have a fiddle with it!! They might have a 'duty of care' or some other worded policy which prohibits them letting 'illegal' vehicles onto the road...
Indeed. Doubtless a made up duty of care, and one that is by an amazing coincidence profitable for them.

If its driving fine and you have no ill effects then I'd be inclined not to be too curious.
 
Sorry new to the whole adblue thing.. so you can perm delete the adblue stage in the engine or just delates the readout on the screen? Whats the advantage of a delete? assume makes emissions worse but runs better if a delete off the engine?
 
Sorry new to the whole adblue thing.. so you can perm delete the adblue stage in the engine or just delates the readout on the screen? Whats the advantage of a delete? assume makes emissions worse but runs better if a delete off the engine?
Normally done when a major component of the AdBlue system fails requiring thousand(s) of ££'s spending on it to rectify.

At which point a lot of people say "OK - £250 or so to code it out please" at which point the van thinks it doesn't have an AdBlue system at all anymore. And runs like all the millions of old pre-AdBlue engines do (better most will say!)
 
Normally done when a major component of the AdBlue system fails requiring thousand(s) of ££'s spending on it to rectify.

At which point a lot of people say "OK - £250 or so to code it out please" at which point the van thinks it doesn't have an AdBlue system at all anymore. And runs like all the millions of old pre-AdBlue engines do (better most will say!)
Many thanks for the reply.. learn something new everyday! assuming adblue doesn't steer the emissions too much or would fail at MOT?
 
Adblue has no effect upon the MOT.

The MOT is a diesel smoke opacity test only.

Adblue moderates NOx emissions under certain engine conditions but NOX emissions aren't tested, mainly because there is no practical way of testing them.

It has no effect on 'smoke' that is tested.

Provided there is no physical sign of tampering that a tester might spot then youre golden.
 
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