Any Radio HAMs out there?

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Well HAM AMATEUR RADIO operators that is . . . . (RSGB Licenced or not) ?


I done some Radio stuff in College . . .

i was into CB back in the early 90`s . . .

had a Play with some VHF in the 2000`s . . .

had a go with UHF in 2015 . . .

Now we have PMR446 dPMR446 and DMR . . . and Digital radios, with hotspots and all sorts of mad tech.

im getting back into it again - with 2m and 70cm and now new digital modes means comms via the internet and global - how mad is that !!!!


So i thought i would put it out there and see if there are any HAMs lurking of the forum. UK based or not

QSO?

73`s


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Was on CB and then got a amateur licence in the mid 80’s but never really used it.
Now I tend to listen only, right across the spectrum, with scanners.
I also have an SDR (Software Defined Radio) from SDRPlay - amazing technology and remarkably cheap.


Pete
 
I used to have a couple of CBs in the early 90s, had a massive antenna in the garden with a rather naughty 70W amplifier :rolleyes: I used to get up very early on Sundays to get some long range comms all over Europe... I also had a couple of digital scanners used to listen to planes and other service that used analogue simplex transmission.

I did think recently I might want to get back into it but probably couldn't justify the cost.
 
Struggling to be heard on HF with a basic home brew inverted 20m loop screwed onto the corner of the garage, a mere 250w and an older Icom 756 pro 3.
Mostly work the US and Canada as Cycle 25 is still getting started so propagation not that strong but have managed Australia and Wednesday this week worked an high school club station in Kazakhstan so reasonable from just a lunctime session each day.
Will be putting up my Hex beam and tower at some point but expect the neighbours will give me shite over that as my antenna is bound to affect their house price and cook their family... sadly it's not easy being a weirdo in this day and age!:geek:
Quick edit and G7VQE if you hear any splatter on 20 or 17m.
Further edit and if @mmi is active the Finns use waaaaay too much power and generally the biggest antennas so are rotten cheats and I'm not really jealous.:whistle:
 
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I did the course for my licence a lot of years ago but left for the Gulf before I could take the exam. Went to see the guys at the RSGB at Bletchley Park last summer. I'm thinking about it too but finances haven't been conducive to more kit.
 
This is good . . . a few of us Radio Geeks about. - worth while making a thread out of it then.

well I've not been licenced before, I've mainly been a "radio pirate" - but a respectful one. . . . . or just Rx`d and listened in..

but now things are going Digital (DMR) - you cant listen in without a callsign etc etc . .

so im going for a licence - Foundation test (online via teams) next week, so wish me luck.


anway over to the kit . .

i cant believe how cheap Radio kit can be now days . . thanks to the Chinees import market.


CB:


I've got a CB 27MHz desktop/mobile rig with a few magmounts (Thunderpole etc )- but as @Spaghetti mentioned the band is very quiet . .

i also used to have a 8mtr bolted to the side of the Shack many years ago, with a well dodgy RF amp that was well out on the TX and used to cause havoc with the neighbours Tv

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Good luck mate, let us know how that goes. I'd be up for getting back to 2m. The club at Bletchley were trying to tie you into lessons and listening sessions so it became an expensive proposition. Suppose they need members to justify that expensive location they have!
 
PMR446:

For anyone reading this and wondering what all this RSGB and licence is all about . . . . there is a free service called PMR446,

its based around low power, fixed channel, fixed antenna, type walkie talky style radios. - no licence req`d and free for anyone to use.

Ofcom in the UK has set boundaries for the use of these radios . . . but for the non-ham all you need to know is you can just - buy and use.

i have a set of the RETEVIS RB615 and love them: they are only £16 each !!! with battery & charger etc etc. - https://amzn.to/3rq6n09

they are great to play with the kids and use for camping etc etc

limited range, but a great place to start.



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About this item
  • Easy to use mini walkie talkies; PMR446 license free; small and light than phone; easy to carry; small enough to fit the palm of kid
  • Wireless clone function; the unique cloning function of RB615 allows you to quickly communicate with another RB615 by synchronizing signals
  • Vibration function; receive signal and vibrate; not miss any information even in a noise environment
  • 360°rotatable back clamp; high quality; meet different ways of wearing; give you a more flexible use experience
  • Robust and durable; high quality PC materials; compact and steady; has a long service life
 
Funnily enough I took my amateur radio course at the OU in a spare classroom in the evenings taught by a local G4 as I was working in Bletchley at the time so just hung around after work and had the knowledge rammed into me.
Up to that point I was a CB SSB user, mainly mobile since 1979 culminating in the standard President Lincoln, Zetagi B550p amplifier and double loaded Modulator whip antenna, cycles 21 and 22 were brilliant for F2 layer skip so if there was somebody at the far end and at least part of the signal path was in daylight you could work them on a daily basis.
I only went to amateur radio due to subsequent declining sunspot cycles and the drop in the MUF to the lower bands only opening.
 
VHF:

These were the radios I've had for years,

TYT TH-F8 :

The ones i have are from years ago so VHF only (136-174MHz)

they cover the Armature HAM bands, which means you can listen in for free . . . . but need a foundation licence to be able legally transmit



more in getting a licence here: Essex Ham - Supporting Amateur Radio in Essex



and here: Welcome to the Radio Society of Great Britain - Portal



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TYT TH-F8 VHF 136-174Mhz Handheld Dual Display Ham Radio




  • Single band, dual display, dual standby/FM radio and 25 stations storage
  • A/B band independent operation/Wire clone & PC programmable
  • 128 groups channels storage/Transmitter time-out timer(TOT)
  • Shortcut menu operation mode/High/Low TX power selectable
  • VFO & Memory channels scan/Busy channel lock-out(BCLO)

Product description

TYT TH-F8 Handheld Transceiver is a well-received Walkie Talkie for you. It has good looking, nice design and excellent performance! You would have wonderful experience using it for communicating within a long range.
General Product Information

Frequency Range 70-108MHz(FM Receive only)
136-174MHz
Channel No. 128
Frequency Stability ±2.5ppm
Antenna High gain antenna
Antenna Impedance 50Ω
Operating Voltage DC 7.4V
Mode of operation Simple or semi-duplex
Dimension(W x H x D) 100 x 52 x 32 mm
Weight 250g(including battery, antenna)
Package Contain

1 x TYT TH-F8 (VHF 136-174Mhz)
1 x AC Adaptor
1 x 7.4V 1600mah Li-ion Battery Pack
1 x Desktop Charger
1 x Antenna 136-174Mhz
1 x Belt Clip
1 x ENG Manual
 
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I have a caterham seven, which are quite noisy so owners often have an intercom. Until a few years ago these were typically Autocom and Starcom systems that you could also link in a PMR radio (with a remote push to talk button) so you could talk car to car.

These have somewhat been superseded by bluetooth headsets that can be paired multiple times, stream music, sat nav instructions, are noise cancelling and can talk car to car over short distances. Most are designed for helmet installation but quite easy to fit into Peltor ear defenders.
 
next up was the Trusty

BAOFENG UV-82 HP (UHF/VHF) - £29.99 each


BaoFeng UV – 82 136 174/400 520 MHz Radio – Black - BaoFeng UV – 82 136 174/400 520 MHz Radio – Black: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike

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About this item
  • Frequency range: 136 – 174 & 400 520MHz. Dual Band, Dual Display, Dual Frequency, Dual Standby
  • SMP microphone, is from Motorola. Ausgezeichnte quality makes communication function smoothly, simple and fun.
  • New 18 cm high gain antenna sturdy Emfang. Features a new headlight glass condenser design get the light with send/Emfang high healing Ligkeit.
  • Gleichtze sided show 2 channels to display. Channel with signal is automatically as the main frequency Unlocked. Original headset with PTT button.
  • 1800 AMH capacity makes longer use time up to 2-3 working days.

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a decent radio that can take a beating . .

we have four of these and love them.

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next up was the newer purchase (UHF / VHF ) . . - £31.99 each

its worth noting that these radios (and the ones above) can be programmed to the PMR446 frequencies for licence free, but are not "licenced" as the dont conform to the spec - antenna removeable, power output above 0.5W etc

Baofeng GT-3TP Mark-III Walkie Talkie 8W/4W/1W UHF VHF 2 Way Radio Dual Band Handheld Transceiver with Car Charger and Antenna






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These have been great little radios . . with a interesting orange side rubbers . . ?

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Base station . . . UHF / VHF

i have this one - QYT KT-8900D - £79




QYT KT-8900D Dual Band Quad-Standby Mini Mobile Transceiver Two-Way Radios Amateur Car Walkie Talkie with Free Programming Cable


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Product description
Features:
Dual Band,Quad-standby
25W Output Power
Mini Size
PC Program
Remote Stun,Remote Activate,Remote Kill
DTMF Function, 2 tone, 5 tone
PTT-ID Code
Repeater Function
Long-distance Communication
FM Radio
Alarm Function
LCD Monitor


Specifications:
Item number:KT-8900D
Frequency Range:VHF:136-174MHz UHF:400-480MHz
Number of Channel:200
Channel Spacing:25KHz 20K 12.5K
Phase lock step:5KHz, 6.25 KHz, 10 KHz ,12.5 KHz, 15 KHz, 25 KHz
Working Voltage:13.8V DC±15%
Squelch way:CTCSS/DCS/5Tone/2Tone/DTMF
Frequency Stability :±2.5ppm
Operating Temperature:-20℃~+60℃
Dimension(W x H x D):103(W) x 47(H) x 126(D)mm
Weight:448g

Package includes:
1× QTY KT-8900D Dual Band Mini Mobile Radio
1× Microphone
1× Car Power Cable
1× Clip for Microphone
1× Mounting Bracket
1× Screw Sets
1 × User Manual



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this is mine,


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currently running on a Diamond x-30 base antenna . . the samller version of this one.




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Dammit, you're making me really think about all this again! I would say my main interest used to lie in designing antenna, ground planes etc mainly to try and squeeze the most out of a given setup.
 
SDR: Software-defined radio

New to me was SDR . . . used for RX / Receiving only. Its a great way to scan the airwaves - provided you have the right antenna and are in reception range.


These give a fascinating incite into the invisible RF spectrum and shed a light onto what's all around us all the time that we didnt even know.





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Software-defined radio (SDR) is a radio communication system where components that have been traditionally implemented in hardware (e.g. mixers, filters, amplifiers, modulators/demodulators, detectors, etc.) are instead implemented by means of software on a personal computer or embedded system.[1] While the concept of SDR is not new, the rapidly evolving capabilities of digital electronics render practical many processes which were once only theoretically possible.

A basic SDR system may consist of a personal computer equipped with a sound card, or other analog-to-digital converter, preceded by some form of RF front end. Significant amounts of signal processing are handed over to the general-purpose processor, rather than being done in special-purpose hardware (electronic circuits). Such a design produces a radio which can receive and transmit widely different radio protocols (sometimes referred to as waveforms) based solely on the software used.

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i have these.

i started with the NESDR SMART - £42




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and soon followed up with the :


RTL-SDR £50 - RTL-SDR Blog R820T2 RTL2832U 1PPM TCXO SMA Software Defined Radio (Dongle Only): Amazon.co.uk: Hi-Fi & Speakers


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and the :

Nooelec NESDR Mini 2+ £25 - Nooelec NESDR Mini 2+ 0.5PPM TCXO RTL-SDR & ADS-B USB Receiver Set w/Antenna, Suction Mount & Female SMA Adapter. RTL2832U & R820T2 Tuner. Low-Cost Software Defined Radio: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

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I have these running SDR# - a free software for them.

i have them running on a small DELL 3040 mini PC, the great thing is you can set them up scan the band/s and auto record any comms.

i have this one setup to record my local UHF analogue repeater

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DMR: - Digital mobile radio

DMR is the new kid on the block . . . . and the reason that the normal analogue bands are less busy (appart from the internet that is)




Digital mobile radio (DMR) is a limited open digital mobile radio standard defined in the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) Standard TS 102 361 parts 1–4[1] and used in commercial products around the world. DMR, along with P25 phase II and NXDN are the main competitor technologies in achieving 6.25 kHz equivalent bandwidth using the proprietary AMBE+2 vocoder. DMR and P25 II both use two-slot TDMA in a 12.5 kHz channel, while NXDN uses discrete 6.25 kHz channels using frequency division and TETRA uses a four-slot TDMA in a 25 kHz channel.

DMR was designed with three tiers. DMR tiers I and II (conventional) were first published in 2005, and DMR III (Trunked version) was published in 2012, with manufacturers producing products within a few years of each publication.

The primary goal of the standard is to specify a digital system with low complexity, low cost and interoperability across brands, so radio communications purchasers are not locked into a proprietary solution. In practice, given the current limited scope of the DMR standard, many vendors have introduced proprietary features that make their product offerings non-interoperable with other brands.



There were various standards in the beginning from the big boys . .

These have now filtered down to the four main players. D-STAR, DMR, (will edit + +)


You can access the DMR world by connecting to a local repeater, or run your own "hotspot"

DMR differers from traditional analouge radio as not point to point.

the DMR system uses your radio to link to a "hotsot" - this is connected to the internet and routs the voice data over the globe to another "hotspot" then to a radio at the other end.

This means that the DMR system is truly global . . . and not geographically locked.

The user groups work like internet chat rooms. . . . . with one to many people chattinf.

The DRM system uses a gloabal databse for users and chatrooms that can be loaded into the radio in whats called a "code plug"



This is where i got to and hit a brick wall - - - - =[


To get access to the DMR world i need a UK callsign (licence) to apply for a DMR id (usermane) . . .

so for now im stuck . . .


This is what i have at the moment. . . . the new radio.

Anytone AT-D878UV PLUS DMR Dualband con Bluetooth PTT






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Anytone AT-D878UV PLUS BLUETOOTH Digital DMR Dual-band Handheld Commercial Radio with Roaming and GPS VHF/UHF Dual-band Digital/Analog Part 90 DMR commercial transceiver with 1.77 inch colour TFT display and GPS.

New AT-D878 model includes DMR Roaming, faster processor and larger memory for future enhancements. Ideal for Fire, Search & Rescue, EMS, Police, Sheriff, Forestry and Security operations. Frequency coverage 140-174 / 400-480 MHz.

Includes USB Programming cable.

  • Roaming : Built-in DMR Repeater Roaming feature
  • APRS / GPS Capable : DMR-APRS and Analog APRS Capable (GPS)
  • VHF/UHF Dual Band : Monitor two bands at the same time (V+V, U+U & V+U)
  • Digital DMR and Analog: Features both DMR digital and analog modes on any channel.
  • High Power Output : 6.0W, 4.0W, 2.5W, 1.0W selectable TX power output
  • 2 & 5 Tone Paging Includes built-in : 2 Tone and 5 Tone Paging feature
  • Programming Cable : Includes USB Programming Cable, free software available for download.
  • Color TFT Display :1.77 inch color TFT screen for Day or Night operation. User changeable display and font colors.
  • Roaming : New Built-in Roaming Feature
  • APRS (GPS): DMR-APRS and Analog APRS Capable (GPS)
  • Processor :Faster Processor over the D868UV
  • Additional Memory: Larger Memory for Future Enhancements TFT Display Background Display and Font Colors are User changeable
  • Digital Monitor :Monitor One or Two Timeslots
  • Zone Select :Selectable Zones from Keypad
  • Auto RX Mode Receiver : Auto Selects to incoming Digital or Analog Signal
  • GPS : Built-in GPS feature
  • Memory Channels: 4,000 channels
  • DMR Talk Groups : 10,000
  • Digital Contacts: 150,000 (complete worldwide database from DMR-MARC)
  • Power Levels : 4 programmable power levels: 6/4/2.5/1 Watt Transmit Power Levels.
  • Zones : 250 zones, up to 250 channels per zone.
  • Display: 1.77 inch color TFT Screen with selectable dual channel or single channel display.
  • Battery: Operate 35+ hours between charges with the supplied 3100 mAh lithium ion battery in the power saver mode.
  • Bandwidth : 12.5 / 25.0 kHz Analog, and 12.5 kHz DMR
  • Import/Export :Enhanced CPS allows direct input and export of channels, digital IDs and talkgroups.
  • DMR Compatibility: Supports both Tier I and Tier II operation, making it compatible with DMR repeaters that utilize two-slot TDMA technology.
  • Amateur Radio: Also operational on amateur radio DMR networks and analog frequencies. Software importable worldwide amateur contact database.
  • Programmable : FCC 47CFR90.203 requires the keypad locked in the shipping configuration. Software keypad unlocking and re-programming are available with the included USB Programming Cable.
  • Speaker Connection :2-pin style Kenwood/Wouxun type earphone and speaker mic connection for a variety of accessories.
  • Quiet Tones :CTCSS/DCS tone squelch with split tone and custom tone capability.
  • Frequency Range : 140-174 / 400-480 MHz RX/TX
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this is my one . . .

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im getting my own local hotspot too . . . so watch this space for that . . .


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