Coilovers: SoLow or H&R

VeeDubz

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Hi guys
Mines a T30, on RR 19”, tyre setup is 245/45 front and 255/45 rear. I’m torn between two types of coilovers, HnR or SoLows. I don’t intend to do hub mod or top mount. I basically want to throw them on at the lowest level I can without causing issues. I have been bitten by cheap coilovers and as these are a expensive purchase I want to make the correct decision for ride quality, build quality and also the lowest I could go on this wheel/tyre setup and no issues, ie rubbing, like to keep the 45 setup if possible for a little bit of extra comfort.
Thanks in advance
 
not sure on your tyre size but I run 20’s with solows and they’re amazing comfort wise, can’t comment on h &r but I don’t thing they go as low as solows . Rubbing I had a little to start but only the plastic lines which I have heated to move or just worn away anyway. You won’t regret solows just remember to trim the bump stops and the bump stop holder and move the abs cable .
 
Hi guys
Mines a T30, on RR 19”, tyre setup is 245/45 front and 255/45 rear. I’m torn between two types of coilovers, HnR or SoLows. I don’t intend to do hub mod or top mount. I basically want to throw them on at the lowest level I can without causing issues. I have been bitten by cheap coilovers and as these are a expensive purchase I want to make the correct decision for ride quality, build quality and also the lowest I could go on this wheel/tyre setup and no issues, ie rubbing, like to keep the 45 setup if possible for a little bit of extra comfort.
Thanks in advance
If you ring transporter hq they’ll advise what size tyres work, they’ve fit enough sets of them .
 
Hi guys
Mines a T30, on RR 19”, tyre setup is 245/45 front and 255/45 rear. I’m torn between two types of coilovers, HnR or SoLows. I don’t intend to do hub mod or top mount. I basically want to throw them on at the lowest level I can without causing issues. I have been bitten by cheap coilovers and as these are a expensive purchase I want to make the correct decision for ride quality, build quality and also the lowest I could go on this wheel/tyre setup and no issues, ie rubbing, like to keep the 45 setup if possible for a little bit of extra comfort.
Thanks in advance
Many others run the SoLows, but I can’t comment on them as I’ve never had them…. what I can comment on is the H&R coilovers. I had the H&R coilovers fitted by @CRS Performance (who aren’t a million miles from you) in October 2020 and this is honestly some of the best money I’ve invested in my van. Steve @CRS Performance is a suspension specialist and I don’t really need to say anymore than that! It all depends on what you want and how low is going to be right and practical for you? Just to give you an example, my van in this picture is on banded Amarok’s with 255/45/18 tyres and lowered by 80mm.
I never have a problem with anything rubbing or catching, speed bumps, etc etc. The only thing I have to be careful of is my Sportline spoiler and splitter.
I know it’s not as low as SoLows, but it works for me!

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Many others run the SoLows, but I can’t comment on them as I’ve never had them…. what I can comment on is the H&R coilovers. I had the H&R coilovers fitted by @CRS Performance (who aren’t a million miles from you) in October 2020 and this is honestly some of the best money I’ve invested in my van. Steve @CRS Performance is a suspension specialist and I don’t really need to say anymore than that! It all depends on what you want and how low is going to be right and practical for you? Just to give you an example, my van in this picture is on banded Amarok’s with 255/45/18 tyres and lowered by 80mm.
I never have a problem with anything rubbing or catching, speed bumps, etc etc. The only thing I have to be careful of is my Sportline spoiler and splitter.
I know it’s not as low as SoLows, but it works for me!

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Hey mate, tidy van!
do you know if you can lower it any more on this setup? If so, do you know how much more? Thanks
 
Hey mate, tidy van!
do you know if you can lower it any more on this setup? If so, do you know how much more? Thanks
Hey @Tyler846 …. Thanks mate!:thumbsup:

I believe it can be lowered to around 100mm, but in order to get it that low I’m sure I’m right in saying it would need additional mods. The best person to ask would be Chris @The Van Cave as I know he was running this setup with the extra mods on his demo van before he went to the SoLows. Other than that Steve @CRS Performance is the suspension guru that fits this kit day in day out. Hope that helps fella :)
 
I would recommend solow over H&R all day for the levels you want - just not a fan of the H&R kits. We’ve never fitted them only removed to replace for a better kit. But, Suspension is very subjective to individual taste, so best to get out there and try for yourself . Solows are developed by THQ and they lead the way with super low suspension. The minimum lowering of Solow is 100mm. So they can go lower. They have unreal comfort for this level of lowering. But be careful on wheel choice especially on a T32 with 20’s as it won’t work with legal tyres.
Speak to the boys at THQ. They will help -!I see you at in Australia and I’m sure they can ship there.
 
The h&r T32 kit is harsh as it’s tuned for the extra weight. Might be why some don’t like it or have not done enough research before hand. As you are a T30, that’s not an issue.
I have a T32 but I put the T30 h&r kit on as I’ll never carry the weight, and the ride is fantastic.
However, it’s only spec’d for an 80mm drop max. Maybe something else can be done but it’s sounds like you want your dpf dragging on the floor, so maybe solows.
I’ve not tried solows.
 
Hey @Tyler846 …. Thanks mate!:thumbsup:

I believe it can be lowered to around 100mm, but in order to get it that low I’m sure I’m right in saying it would need additional mods. The best person to ask would be Chris @The Van Cave as I know he was running this setup with the extra mods on his demo van before he went to the SoLows. Other than that Steve @CRS Performance is the suspension guru that fits this kit day in day out. Hope that helps fella :)
So, I'm going to answer this without prejudice, without any hidden agenda and with first hand experience, both as a consumer who has run both kits and also as a fully independent dealer who has supplied and fitted many of both the H&R T30 kit and the Solow kit.

It's important to remember that these kits are very different and are aimed at different customers, they are not competitors. The only time it becomes a grey area is if you want to run your van at a ride height in between the max drop of the H&R and the minimum drop of the solows, although there are other kits out there that fill that gap in the market, the merits of which can be debated endlessly depending on your agenda.

The H&R kit is advertised and approved for maximum 80mm drop. It can go lower and on a T30 you have two options at the front. The hub mod to drop the strut through the hub (not a fan of this personally, although plenty of people do it), or you can fit machined top mounts. Neither really affect the ride quality in a negative way, because they don't change the relationship between the strut and the spring. You can get about 12-15mm extra lowering with the machined top mount and up to about 20mm or so with a hub mod and a skinny CV boot.

At the rear you can fit an adjuster delete, which will gain about another 10-15mm drop, but this will affect ride quality slightly as it does affect the relationship between the shock and spring. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference.

From everything I've fitted, run myself and test driven, I haven't found anything that rides better than the H&R T30 kit (when the rebound on the front is set correctly). The combination of build quality, ride quality and features at that price point is exceptional. I don't have any experience of the newest Bilstein kits that have popped up in a couple of places (not the B14 komfort, the really new stuff), but they would have to be something very special to beat the H&R kit.

Anyway, all of that said, there's no reason these days to run a kit lower than it is designed to go, there are just so many options out there to cater for every need.

Solows don't start at 100mm drop. It varies from van to van. I've had drops of 90mm at the cave at max height in both panel vans and Kombis, in T28, T30 and T32 but it varies depending on the weight of the van of course.

It's also not true that you can't run 20s with load rated tyres on Solows on T32, I've proven several times that it is possible.

Solows often require additional mods to the van to run them safely, so they need to fitted by someone who knows what they're doing as your taking the van well past the ride heights it was designed to see.

Any customer of mine considering Solows will have a full run down of the work that might be required and the pros and cons of running as low as the ride heights they offer. If people aren't 100% committed to them, or not sure if the 90-95-100mm minimum drop will be too low for them, I offer them an alternative.

Back to @Tyler846 question:

Yes, you can run the H&R T30 kit lower than 80mm.
You might choose not to.

To sum up other's comments/questions
Solow will start lower than that and go much lower than that, but might not be right for you. I love them, when they are correct for the application.
There is a kit out there that goes up to 90mm down that might be the right option when you think Solows are too low and other kits aren't low enough.

Hopefully that clarifies a few things for a few people.
 
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Hey @Tyler846 …. Thanks mate!:thumbsup:

I believe it can be lowered to around 100mm, but in order to get it that low I’m sure I’m right in saying it would need additional mods. The best person to ask would be Chris @The Van Cave as I know he was running this setup with the extra mods on his demo van before he went to the SoLows. Other than that Steve @CRS Performance is the suspension guru that fits this kit day in day out. Hope that helps fella :)
Thanks for the reply mate!
 
So, I'm going to answer this without prejudice, without any hidden agenda and with first hand experience, both as a consumer who has run both kits and also as a fully independent dealer who has supplied and fitted many of both the H&R T30 kit and the Solow kit.

It's important to remember that these kits are very different and are aimed at different customers, they are not competitors. The only time it becomes a grey area is if you want to run your van at a ride height in between the max drop of the H&R and the minimum drop of the solows, although there are other kits out there that fill that gap in the market, the merits of which can be debated endlessly depending on your agenda.

The H&R kit is advertised and approved for maximum 80mm drop. It can go lower and on a T30 you have two options at the front. The hub mod to drop the strut through the hub (not a fan of this personally, although plenty of people do it), or you can fit machined top mounts. Neither really affect the ride quality in a negative way, because they don't change the relationship between the strut and the spring. You can get about 12-15mm extra lowering with the machined top mount and up to about 20mm or so with a hub mod and a skinny CV boot.

At the rear you can fit an adjuster delete, which will gain about another 10-15mm drop, but this will affect ride quality slightly as it does affect the relationship between the shock and spring. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference.

From everything I've fitted, run myself and test driven, I haven't found anything that rides better than the H&R T30 kit (when the rebound on the front is set correctly). The combination of build quality, ride quality and features at that price point is exceptional. I don't have any experience of the newest Bilstein kits that have popped up in a couple of places (not the B14 komfort, the really new stuff), but they would have to be something very special to beat the H&R kit.

Anyway, all of that said, there's no reason these days to run a kit lower than it is designed to go, there are just so many options out there to cater for every need.

Solows don't start at 100mm drop. It varies from van to van. I've had drops of 90mm at the cave at max height in both panel vans and Kombis, in T28, T30 and T32 but it varies depending on the weight of the van of course.

It's also not true that you can't run 20s with load rated tyres on Solows on T32, I've proven several times that it is possible.

Solows often require additional mods to the van to run them safely, so they need to fitted by someone who knows what they're doing as your taking the van well past the ride heights it was designed to see.

Any customer of mine considering Solows will have a full run down of the work that might be required and the pros and cons of running as low as the ride heights they offer. If people aren't 100% committed to them, or not sure if the 90-95-100mm minimum drop will be too low for them, I offer them an alternative.

Back to @Tyler846 question:

Yes, you can run the H&R T30 kit lower than 80mm.
You might choose not to.

To sum up other's comments/questions
Solow will start lower than that and go much lower than that, but might not be right for you. I love them, when they are correct for the application.
There is a kit out there that goes up to 90mm down that might be the right option when you think Solows are too low and other kits aren't low enough.

Hopefully that clarifies a few things for a few people.
Great post!
 
So, I'm going to answer this without prejudice, without any hidden agenda and with first hand experience, both as a consumer who has run both kits and also as a fully independent dealer who has supplied and fitted many of both the H&R T30 kit and the Solow kit.

It's important to remember that these kits are very different and are aimed at different customers, they are not competitors. The only time it becomes a grey area is if you want to run your van at a ride height in between the max drop of the H&R and the minimum drop of the solows, although there are other kits out there that fill that gap in the market, the merits of which can be debated endlessly depending on your agenda.

The H&R kit is advertised and approved for maximum 80mm drop. It can go lower and on a T30 you have two options at the front. The hub mod to drop the strut through the hub (not a fan of this personally, although plenty of people do it), or you can fit machined top mounts. Neither really affect the ride quality in a negative way, because they don't change the relationship between the strut and the spring. You can get about 12-15mm extra lowering with the machined top mount and up to about 20mm or so with a hub mod and a skinny CV boot.

At the rear you can fit an adjuster delete, which will gain about another 10-15mm drop, but this will affect ride quality slightly as it does affect the relationship between the shock and spring. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference.

From everything I've fitted, run myself and test driven, I haven't found anything that rides better than the H&R T30 kit (when the rebound on the front is set correctly). The combination of build quality, ride quality and features at that price point is exceptional. I don't have any experience of the newest Bilstein kits that have popped up in a couple of places (not the B14 komfort, the really new stuff), but they would have to be something very special to beat the H&R kit.

Anyway, all of that said, there's no reason these days to run a kit lower than it is designed to go, there are just so many options out there to cater for every need.

Solows don't start at 100mm drop. It varies from van to van. I've had drops of 90mm at the cave at max height in both panel vans and Kombis, in T28, T30 and T32 but it varies depending on the weight of the van of course.

It's also not true that you can't run 20s with load rated tyres on Solows on T32, I've proven several times that it is possible.

Solows often require additional mods to the van to run them safely, so they need to fitted by someone who knows what they're doing as your taking the van well past the ride heights it was designed to see.

Any customer of mine considering Solows will have a full run down of the work that might be required and the pros and cons of running as low as the ride heights they offer. If people aren't 100% committed to them, or not sure if the 90-95-100mm minimum drop will be too low for them, I offer them an alternative.

Back to @Tyler846 question:

Yes, you can run the H&R T30 kit lower than 80mm.
You might choose not to.

To sum up other's comments/questions
Solow will start lower than that and go much lower than that, but might not be right for you. I love them, when they are correct for the application.
There is a kit out there that goes up to 90mm down that might be the right option when you think Solows are too low and other kits aren't low enough.

Hopefully that clarifies a few things for a few people.
Thanks for the massive write up mate. If I can get a kit that would suit a drop ranging from 80-110 that’d be great haha I measured my t30 multivan going over the crest in our driveway and at 100mm drop it’ll just scrape the plastic under the driver side. Not really a drama but I’m just thinking about shopping center car park ramps or speed bumps etc.
I do like the solows though… I’d be running a 20” with a 35-40 profile
 
Thanks for the massive write up mate. If I can get a kit that would suit a drop ranging from 80-110 that’d be great haha I measured my t30 multivan going over the crest in our driveway and at 100mm drop it’ll just scrape the plastic under the driver side. Not really a drama but I’m just thinking about shopping center car park ramps or speed bumps etc.
I do like the solows though… I’d be running a 20” with a 35-40 profile
I’ll send you a message to discuss further. :thumbsup:
 
So, I'm going to answer this without prejudice, without any hidden agenda and with first hand experience, both as a consumer who has run both kits and also as a fully independent dealer who has supplied and fitted many of both the H&R T30 kit and the Solow kit.

It's important to remember that these kits are very different and are aimed at different customers, they are not competitors. The only time it becomes a grey area is if you want to run your van at a ride height in between the max drop of the H&R and the minimum drop of the solows, although there are other kits out there that fill that gap in the market, the merits of which can be debated endlessly depending on your agenda.

The H&R kit is advertised and approved for maximum 80mm drop. It can go lower and on a T30 you have two options at the front. The hub mod to drop the strut through the hub (not a fan of this personally, although plenty of people do it), or you can fit machined top mounts. Neither really affect the ride quality in a negative way, because they don't change the relationship between the strut and the spring. You can get about 12-15mm extra lowering with the machined top mount and up to about 20mm or so with a hub mod and a skinny CV boot.

At the rear you can fit an adjuster delete, which will gain about another 10-15mm drop, but this will affect ride quality slightly as it does affect the relationship between the shock and spring. It's not a huge difference, but it is a difference.

From everything I've fitted, run myself and test driven, I haven't found anything that rides better than the H&R T30 kit (when the rebound on the front is set correctly). The combination of build quality, ride quality and features at that price point is exceptional. I don't have any experience of the newest Bilstein kits that have popped up in a couple of places (not the B14 komfort, the really new stuff), but they would have to be something very special to beat the H&R kit.

Anyway, all of that said, there's no reason these days to run a kit lower than it is designed to go, there are just so many options out there to cater for every need.

Solows don't start at 100mm drop. It varies from van to van. I've had drops of 90mm at the cave at max height in both panel vans and Kombis, in T28, T30 and T32 but it varies depending on the weight of the van of course.

It's also not true that you can't run 20s with load rated tyres on Solows on T32, I've proven several times that it is possible.

Solows often require additional mods to the van to run them safely, so they need to fitted by someone who knows what they're doing as your taking the van well past the ride heights it was designed to see.

Any customer of mine considering Solows will have a full run down of the work that might be required and the pros and cons of running as low as the ride heights they offer. If people aren't 100% committed to them, or not sure if the 90-95-100mm minimum drop will be too low for them, I offer them an alternative.

Back to @Tyler846 question:

Yes, you can run the H&R T30 kit lower than 80mm.
You might choose not to.

To sum up other's comments/questions
Solow will start lower than that and go much lower than that, but might not be right for you. I love them, when they are correct for the application.
There is a kit out there that goes up to 90mm down that might be the right option when you think Solows are too low and other kits aren't low enough.

Hopefully that clarifies a few things for a few people.
Too much time on your hands bud , The H&R deep is what THQ used to sell before the Solows . Although H&R did make that kit they simply dont sell it in countries that use TUV and they simply dont support it with warranties as the kit is modified too much. ( it also goes too low for TUV approval as inner wing liner fowling is one of the things TUV do check.
Thanks for the massive write up mate. If I can get a kit that would suit a drop ranging from 80-110 that’d be great haha I measured my t30 multivan going over the crest in our driveway and at 100mm drop it’ll just scrape the plastic under the driver side. Not really a drama but I’m just thinking about shopping center car park ramps or speed bumps etc.
I do like the solows though… I’d be running a 20” with a 35-40 profile
Might be worth checking with the authorities as i know Australia has very strict rules and regs when it comes to cars and particularly off road vehicles , they used to sell kits that can lift vehicles 6 inch's ( 150 mm ) the government at one stage BANNED lifting at all and this would have badly hurt a market that was massive in lifting off road vehicles . After lobbying the government the suspension industry managed to get a compromise at 50 mm lift . It may well be that they restrict lowering as well ?
I am not sure about this , but to import an expensive kit and find it gets blocked at customs would be a nightmare ( we have a similar issue in Switzerland any suspension products sold there have to have local import licenses for all suspension products , they cost a lot of money apparently )
 
Hey mate,
Yeah we have some strict rules but with engineer reports and paperwork if they vehicle complied with the road traffic regulations then they’ll sign their name to it and it isn’t a drama.

In saying that though if for example I install coilovers and they’re crazy low and I get a defect notice i can a) lift it to a minimum ride height of 100mm or b) swap my factory struts back in the clear the defect. Or c) get a mate who owns a mechanical shop to sign off saying the defective items have been rectified lol.

I’ve also bought air ride suspension for my Lincoln Continental and imported it from America. Didn’t get held up at customs so I’d assume coilovers from the UK would be fine.. I’m only assuming though, thanks for the heads up though I appreciate it!
 
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