Dial lighting

This practice usually was only done by the average saxo vtr driver. Now the saxo vtr driver has grown up to all sorts of other makes and models but old habits die hard.
 
There are two reasons in my experience. They are ignorant/naive and they fink it looks cool like innit bruv...
I generally find that these same folk have a near horizontal drivers seat, and one extremely long arm. Clearly they are highly skilled as driving one handed whilst lying down must be terribly difficult.
 
I generally find that these same folk have a near horizontal drivers seat, and one extremely long arm. Clearly they are highly skilled as driving one handed whilst lying down must be terribly difficult.
I've yet to find a highly skilled one. I've also yet to tire of finding one in a ditch that I've previously stopped days before and told them that they would crash soon enough. I stop short of "told you so" punting instead for the reply to the inevitable statement "I don't know what happened" of " I do. You're a crap driver" it's hard for them to argue their case otherwise at that juncture..
 
I just generally opt for the simple statement "someone clearly ran out of talent"!
 
I've yet to find a highly skilled one. I've also yet to tire of finding one in a ditch that I've previously stopped days before and told them that they would crash soon enough. I stop short of "told you so" punting instead for the reply to the inevitable statement "I don't know what happened" of " I do. You're a crap driver" it's hard for them to argue their case otherwise at that juncture..
How very true, my driving improved significantly at age 21 when I put my car in a ditch and bent it so bad I could barely drive it home at which point I realised three things;
a) My enthusiasm outweighed my driving skills
b) I could not afford a new car every 3 months
c) No car = no crumpet
 
As a fairly high mileage driver, and motorcyclist, my biggest gripes are inappropriate use of poorly aligned/adjusted lights, and fog lights front and rear when visibility isn't bad.
 
@Caravellet6 I'm with you but why not start earlier with the application for a license. I'm also with others about the use of rear fog lamps, especially those idiots that pass you, steal your braking space and leave the cussed rear fog light on. Then there are those that don't know the lighting state of their vehicle and drive either in built up areas with rear fogs on or leave them on when visibility is clear. Rant over, I'll call the taxi and take my soapbox with me! P.S. I too am a biker - Honda Pan European 1100 for those interested.
 
@T6 Dave's Dad you are spot on, I think we may have the same soap box!

Here's an idea of the idiots on the road - last Saturday leaving the multiplex there a lad in front of me no lights on and it's half light getting darker by the minute, while
we queue up to leave I leap out to tell him, his response? "it's ok mate I can see fine" at which point I thought let him have an accident then.....
 
I know what you mean @Caravellet6 but the trouble is with idiots like our dim lit (and witted) friend is that they have accidents with innocent people, even pedestrians, when they don't see him until too late and he gets away with it when he switches his lights on after the event!
 
@Caravellet6 I'm with you but why not start earlier with the application for a license. I'm also with others about the use of rear fog lamps, especially those idiots that pass you, steal your braking space and leave the cussed rear fog light on. Then there are those that don't know the lighting state of their vehicle and drive either in built up areas with rear fogs on or leave them on when visibility is clear. Rant over, I'll call the taxi and take my soapbox with me! P.S. I too am a biker - Honda Pan European 1100 for those interested.
With regard to starting the training earlier, that's why I bought my 12 year old an hours lesson with Admirals Young Driver scheme. It is aimed at 10-17 year olds to try and enable them to grow up being more aware of the roads, so that when they get their licence they are less likely to wrap themselves around a tree within thirty minutes.
 
Well done @DaveyB anything that helps. I like to see these young driver introductions but the problem is cost either to those learning or to the organization's providing such training that also depend on volunteers to help. The ideal of course is where the programme includes repair and maintenance of old vehicles that they then learn to drive which also helps develop responsibility and teamwork as the students depend upon each other to service and repair the vehicles properly. That's another soapbox, sorry. Exits stage right !
 
@T6 Dave's Dad There is/ used to be, an organisation in Oxford called Skidz, and that is exactly what they do. Albeit you have to have been a naughty boy to get on the course in the first place.
 
I have got my 15 year old daughter on the Young Driver schemes at Cribbs Causeway, Bristol....very impressed, not cheap, but worth it and she really enjoyed it.
 
My kids will be on something similar as soon as they are old enough. I'm worried that me trying to teach them anything will end badly!!
 
Never goes well @Thogg if you try to teach a relative because you can never be detached and any issues are not confined to the lessons. Also any incidents involving a "pupil" would also get around at work. I believe professional driving instructors get a colleague to teach their relatives rather than do it themselves.
 
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