DSG 7 speed lost gears 3 and 5. T6 204bhp 2016

[Derek99B]

The gearbox has gone into limp mode.
The display where the selected mode or gear is alternating between the gear
(e.g. D4) and a white solid spanner.
Moving away from rest it is jumping from D2 to D4.
I'm not sure about gears 1 and 7. I stopped driving it, no more tests yet.

Please can someone tell me what is the problem?
I would like to drive it 15 miles to my repairer, using manual gear selections to lock it into 2 or 4.
Is it OK to do that or should I get it recovered?
Would resetting/clearing the fault codes using VCDS give me back gear 3 and 5.
Please let me know what you think?
Regards Derek
From VCDS
Address 02: Auto Trans (J743) Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
Part No SW: 0BT 300 046 A HW: 0BH 927 711 G
Component: DSG DQ500-7F H11 5208
Revision: 00H11V01 CVN: 17D0E6A4
Coding: 0014
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW36.rod
VCID: 3467D6AD9F278B361F-8060

2 Faults Found:
10725 - Gear Selector 1
P176A 00 [00101100] - Cannot be Regulated
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 264794 km
Date: 2025.02.06.
Time: 15:14:16

Engine RPM: 2545.00 /min
Vehicle speed: 25 km/h
Coolant temperature: 90 °C
Clutch: primary stat: Drive off
selected gear: GANG_4
Driving position: d
Engine torque: 40 Nm
Control Module temperature: 84 °C
Accelerator pedal position: 43.6 %
DTC memory status: 109

10727 - Gear Selector 3
P176C 00 [00101100] - Cannot be Regulated
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 264710 km
Date: 2025.02.06.
Time: 12:09:25

Engine RPM: 822.00 /min
Vehicle speed: 2 km/h
Coolant temperature: 91 °C
Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
selected gear: GANG N
Driving position: R
Engine torque: 16 Nm
Control Module temperature: 84 °C
Accelerator pedal position: 14.8 %
DTC memory status: 111

Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 A HW: 7E0 907 572
Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0110
Serial number: 03051677030808 Dataset Number: 7E0114v____ 0009
Coding: 00005800FE0779
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001004
ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
VCID: 3467D6AD9F278B361F-8060

1 Fault Found:
1050 - Transmission in Limp Mode
P305B 00 [00001000] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 226
Mileage: 264710 km
Date: 2025.02.06.
Time: 12:09:25

Control Module temperature: 22 °C
Voltage terminal 15: 14.5 V
Vehicle speed: 0.74 m/s
Acceleration: -0.13 m/s²

 

[DanW81]

The good thing you have done is to at least get the problem scanned so fair play to you.

As you know these dsg boxes are quite technical and expensive to repair or worst case replace.
For peace of mind, you may have to go down the specialist dsg gearbox repair local to you and pony up for a recover truck to get the van there. If anything so that you don't have a major breakdown on route and cause more damage.
It's an hard call only you can make, but I would more than likely go this route.

Hope the problem is something trivial for you Derek

 

[JOG]

I can’t help with the issue but I’d suggest a recovery or tow to your friendly repair shop

 

[mmi]

Have you upgraded your VCDS cable after April-2024 as here In-use Performance Tracking. What is this?

Would have been interested to see what the DSG thinks about it's health - compare your data with mine.
Unfortunately only newer generation VCDS HEX-V2 and HEX-NET cables can do this.

Spoiler: How-to for VCDS HEX-V2 or HEX-NET

Could you please record a couple of DSG blockmap files - DSG at (P)

1. DSG blockmap data - ignition ON, engine OFF
2. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle
3. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle, brake pedal depressed

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How-to:

VCDS > Applications > Controller Channel Map >

For "Single controller address" - 02​

Tick/fill boxes as above and click Go. ​

​

VCDS flashes screens for a moment (when finished hit "Done, Go Back") and there will be files blockmap-02-... in folder C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Logs\....​

Note: only VCDS HEX-V2 and VCDS HEX-NET cables have the capability to create blockmap files.

With older cable I would check the following

VCDS > Select > 02-Auto Trans > Adv. Meas. Values

IDE00872-ENG102188 Current of main pressure valve-Oil Pressure Actual Current​

IDE02726-ENG100799 E-Pump: power supply-Voltage Supply Electric Motor​

IDE02742 Oil pressure actual value​

IDE05988-ENG110505 Pressure of clutch 2: actual value-Clutch_2_actual_value​

IDE05989-ENG110503 Pressure of clutch 1: actual value-Clutch_1_actual_value​

​

[EDIT]​

The above​

1. ignition ON, engine OFF
2. engine running at idle

 

[Derek99B]

Have you upgraded your VCDS cable after April-2024 as here In-use Performance Tracking. What is this?

Would have been interested to see what the DSG thinks about it's health - compare your data with mine.
Unfortunately only newer generation VCDS HEX-V2 and HEX-NET cables can do this.

Spoiler: How-to for VCDS HEX-V2 or HEX-NET

Could you please record a couple of DSG blockmap files - DSG at (P)

1. DSG blockmap data - ignition ON, engine OFF
2. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle
3. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle, brake pedal depressed

---

How-to:

VCDS > Applications > Controller Channel Map >

For "Single controller address" - 02​

Tick/fill boxes as above and click Go. ​

​

VCDS flashes screens for a moment (when finished hit "Done, Go Back") and there will be files blockmap-02-... in folder C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Logs\....​

Note: only VCDS HEX-V2 and VCDS HEX-NET cables have the capability to create blockmap files.

With older cable I would check the following

VCDS > Select > 02-Auto Trans > Adv. Meas. Values

IDE00872-ENG102188 Current of main pressure valve-Oil Pressure Actual Current​

IDE02726-ENG100799 E-Pump: power supply-Voltage Supply Electric Motor​

IDE02742 Oil pressure actual value​

IDE05988-ENG110505 Pressure of clutch 2: actual value-Clutch_2_actual_value​

IDE05989-ENG110503 Pressure of clutch 1: actual value-Clutch_1_actual_value​

​

[EDIT]​

The above​

1. ignition ON, engine OFF
2. engine running at idle

Have you upgraded your VCDS cable after April-2024 as here In-use Performance Tracking. What is this?

Would have been interested to see what the DSG thinks about it's health - compare your data with mine.
Unfortunately only newer generation VCDS HEX-V2 and HEX-NET cables can do this.

Spoiler: How-to for VCDS HEX-V2 or HEX-NET

Could you please record a couple of DSG blockmap files - DSG at (P)

1. DSG blockmap data - ignition ON, engine OFF
2. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle
3. DSG blockmap data - engine running at idle, brake pedal depressed

---

How-to:

VCDS > Applications > Controller Channel Map >

For "Single controller address" - 02​

Tick/fill boxes as above and click Go. ​

​

VCDS flashes screens for a moment (when finished hit "Done, Go Back") and there will be files blockmap-02-... in folder C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Logs\....​

Note: only VCDS HEX-V2 and VCDS HEX-NET cables have the capability to create blockmap files.

With older cable I would check the following

VCDS > Select > 02-Auto Trans > Adv. Meas. Values

IDE00872-ENG102188 Current of main pressure valve-Oil Pressure Actual Current​

IDE02726-ENG100799 E-Pump: power supply-Voltage Supply Electric Motor​

IDE02742 Oil pressure actual value​

IDE05988-ENG110505 Pressure of clutch 2: actual value-Clutch_2_actual_value​

IDE05989-ENG110503 Pressure of clutch 1: actual value-Clutch_1_actual_value​

​

[EDIT]​

The above​

1. ignition ON, engine OFF
2. engine running at idle

Hi Thanks for that
I've attached a screenshot of those items while in D, It was pulling jerkedly, but the figures remained constant.
With R selected the figures were much the same, though clutch 1 and 2 were reversed.