e-scooter on bike rack

[dejansuc]

Hello, has anyone already considered purchasing an e-scooter? I'm looking for something that I could ride mainly on gravel roads and that has good hill-climbing capabilities..
The "Kukirin G3 Pro" with its two motors seems like a good choice in terms of price and quality. It is indeed heavy (40kg), but it has a removable battery (~10kg), which makes it about 30kg. I would transport it on a Thule WanderWay2 bike rack, which has a load capacity of 60kg, on a VWT6.1 transporter. And ff course, I would also ride it at home. I live in the countryside and the terrain is quite varied.

 

[Sasquatch]

Hello, has anyone already considered purchasing an e-scooter?

I've thought about it for a laugh, but no. They can only be ridden on private land to which the public do not have access so itd never get used here in the UK, and I'm not risking 6-8 points on my licence.

That model looks pretty compact in its folded state. Could you not find a corner in the van to stash it?

 

[dejansuc]

I've thought about it for a laugh, but no. They can only be ridden on private land to which the public do not have access so itd never get used here in the UK, and I'm not risking 6-8 points on my licence.

That model looks pretty compact in its folded state. Could you not find a corner in the van to stash it?

As far as the legislation is concerned, I'm not worried about that, driving is allowed in Slovenia... The legislation in the countries we ride in is quite lax... I'm mainly interested in the possibility of transporting it on a van, how the van behaves on the road with a 30kg load on the bike rack... Unfortunately, I don't have enough space in the van to transport it inside. There are dog boxes in the back, and the interior is quite small... T6.1 4Motion Camper-Conversion to carry dogs

 

[TallPaul_S]

30kg is 2 normal bikes or one really heavy ebike, so nothing unusual for a bike rack.

 

[Frigo110]

How will it be in the rain with the water splashing all over it?
Its more like a jet-wash and not like driving it on wet roads.

 

[dejansuc]

How will it be in the rain with the water splashing all over it?
Its more like a jet-wash and not like driving it on wet roads.

Interesting observation... I can sew a cover and cover it during transport, but the scooter is classified as IP54.

 

[TallPaul_S]

One thing to be aware of is that small wheels really aren't great off road. The bigger the wheel the bigger the bigger the angle of attack and the better the rollover.

Those little wheels, when faced with anything bigger than a couple of inches high will be terrible.

 

[cgtmiles]

I second that having nearly killed myself multiple times messing around on the kids push scooters on seemingly flat tarmac.

I guess the question is why not get an e-bike? Surely they would be much more versatile than a scooter which to be honest I don’t understand the point of even if we did allow them on the roads here as they are fundamentally dangerous

 

[dejansuc]

I second that having nearly killed myself multiple times messing around on the kids push scooters on seemingly flat tarmac.

I guess the question is why not get an e-bike? Surely they would be much more versatile than a scooter which to be honest I don’t understand the point of even if we did allow them on the roads here as they are fundamentally dangerous

I understand and take into account all opinions. I find the scooter suitable due to its size and compactness. The bicycle is too large to carry in the van. But that's just my opinion and wish...

 

[Dellmassive]

One of our guys has a E scooter and got told off for zooming around busfest on it.

 

[Sasquatch]

One of our guys has a E scooter and got told off for zooming around busfest on it.

People erroneously think because campsites and the like are private property that they can do so.

It's not ownership that determines what may be "private property" for the purposes of the road traffic act, but who has access to it. If the public have access then it's a "public place" and the road traffic act applies there. Hence supermarket car parks, campsites, fields used for car boot sales (at least while open to the public as such), etc are all public places for the purposes of RTA and rules re drink driving, insurance, licence, MOT, correct registration, etc, all apply.

They look a laugh and I'd love one, but no insurance is 6 points on its own so I have steered clear. The rules for the OP would seem to be very different though.

 

[Bav]

I bloody hate e-scooters and anyone who rides them in public.

Just yesterday I was sat in the car, waiting at the traffic lights, when a young oik hurtled (silently) past me on an e-scooter. He was riding on the pavement and nearly hit an old dear who was coming out of the vets, pooch in arms. He must have been inches away from taking her out and, at the speed he was going, it was odds-on he'd have killed her.

 

[Sasquatch]

Quite a few have died on the legal trial scooters in our town. One old boy tripped and fell over kne that'd been dumped on the path and he died on the spot, poor feller.

 

[DaveD]

I bloody hate e-scooters and anyone who rides them in public.

Just yesterday I was sat in the car, waiting at the traffic lights, when a young oik hurtled (silently) past me on an e-scooter. He was riding on the pavement and nearly hit an old dear who was coming out of the vets, pooch in arms. He must have been inches away from taking her out and, at the speed he was going, it was odds-on he'd have killed her.

I suspect a lot of them have got deliveries to make, "hungry" customers phoning the dealer getting impatient.

 

[TallPaul_S]

I suspect a lot of them have got deliveries to make, "hungry" customers phoning the dealer getting impatient.

Pretty much every deliveroo or just eats delivery person round here is on some form of illegal ebike or similar. Occasionally there'll be one on an actual legal motorbike...

 

[The Flying Scotsman]

Quite a few have died on the legal trial scooters in our town. One old boy tripped and fell over kne that'd been dumped on the path and he died on the spot, poor feller.

One of my wife’s pals sons crashed at speed on a e-bike he was driving dangerously.
He’s 16 and now a vegetable

 

[Skyliner33]

Hold on, if they are so illegal to use in the UK, how come in Gtr Manchester they have them for hire all over the place?

 

[Sasquatch]

The scooters on the trial schemes are legal, although are rarely actually ridden in a legal manner.

Everything else is unlawful.

 

[Bav]

The scooters on the trial schemes are legal, although are rarely actually ridden in a legal manner.

Everything else is unlawful.

'Tis true, but I do wonder how much longer the authorities need to conclude that the damn things are dangerous and then halt the trial.

 

[Salty Spuds]

Hold on, if they are so illegal to use in the UK, how come in Gtr Manchester they have them for hire all over the place? View attachment 275587

Because they are speed limited, you have to wear a helmet & they are insured under the scheme. You also need a driving licence, even if it's only a provisional one, similar to riding a moped.

E-scooter trials: guidance for users

Where you are allowed to ride an e-scooter rented as part of a government trial, how to travel safely, licensing guidance and the rules of the road.

www.gov.uk