Hybrid Golf - Anyone got one? Thoughts on hybrid cars generally you wise people.

TallPaul_S said:
Yeah you're right, just checked the service all in plans for a 2020 GTE and a standard petrol 1.5Tsi and both are £38 a month

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I honestly expected VW to extract the urine and add another couple of hundred on for the GTE! :rofl:
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£38 a month for a service plan? That's more than our local Bimmer dealer charges. A lot  more
 
I went for £37 a month over 24 months that includes 4 services, was also offered £29 over 2 years but that was only for 2 services, for an extra £8 a month thought it was a no brainer.
 
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Sackmycook said:
How about an e-Transporter ? Fine for those short journeys, LED lights and all the other bells and whistles on the right model. All for the price of a Euro5 Startline 2016 vintage with 100k
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Christ no!
They will have their fans but from all of the conversations I have had with dealers, owners and those that have tried them, they appear to be an abject failure and are cheap for a reason.........
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£38 a month for a service plan? That's more than our local Bimmer dealer charges. A lot  more
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£38 is the standard price for for the All-In plan, as long as you meet the criteria of <100k miles, <6 years old, <2.0l engine.
Skoda the same - I've just put the same plan on my Octavia. It may well be more than BMW charge, but my guess is that BMW's plan won't include a plug change, fuel filter, pollen filter or anything that's not oil and filter. Or include a 2 year warranty and breakdown cover.

The new Hybrid Golf 8 'officially' will do 80+ miles under electric power alone, which is crackers for a hybrid, because I believe there was a threshold where 22 miles was the minimum they had to be capable of.

My mum has a Honda Jazz EHEV - it's got a 1.5l petrol engine and an electric motor and it's not a bad car to drive around.
Has a CVT 'box, which is horrible, but otherwise as a car it's quiet, comfortable, relaxing and easy to drive (despite having a screen with 1,000 functions on it) and seems to go forever on a teaspoon of petrol.
It has a 35 litre tank which cost me less than 50 quid to fill sometime in December and gave a range of around 500 miles. I thought it was taking the piss, but it does around 65 mpg average.
I am seriously considering something similar for my daily commute.
 
My local independent had an Audi E-tron in for repair a few months ago, totally dead. Turns out the main battery had failed meaning the car was totally useless, you cant use just the petrol engine. It was six months outside of the eight year (I think) battery warranty and to sort it out was going to cost £9500 + VAT + fitting on an eight year old car, I think it was sent off for scrap!!

No cheaper/better than running a Transporter that needs a new engine at a few years old.

I think if you want a hybrid, do loads of research, buy as new as possible, get a good warranty......and hope for the best just like buying any other vehicle.
 
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We have just bought a Kia Sportage hybrid for the wife. 7 year warranty and came with a 'free' 2 year service plan. 3 year service plans are currently £620 ish after the 2 year one runs out.
Don't pick it up till the start of March so can't comment on how we've found it.
 
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I've recently swapped my daily Skoda Superb for a Kia Sportage PHEV. It's a compromise solution, as I do regular journeys of over 300 miles, and don't want to factor in charge stops to my day. My mate has an ID4 GTX, lovely car, but in winter it has real world range of 250 - 275 miles.

If I run on battery alone, it will do about 25 - 30 miles with gentle driving, it's supposed to do 43, so a significant shortfall that might get better in the warmer weather, or might not if I'm using the A/C.

In the first 6k miles, its averaging 34mpg on petrol, so not that great either. It's a big heavy old thing, but comfortable and well equipped.

In short, if you need big range, on a regular basis then electric is only good if you are able to accept the charging stops. Petrol would be better.

If it's for short regular journeys, and you can charge at home, then electric is ideal. Hybrids aren't really the best at either. But, I claim back my petrol, and the lease deal was significantly better than another Superb, so that swayed my decision.

If we were replacing the Leon my wife uses, electric would be a an ideal solution for her usage, no more than 100 - 150 miles at a time, mostly under 30 miles a day. There are some pretty good prices on electric vehicles at around 12 months old at the moment, but the insurance situation would need to be factored in.
 
VW id3 Pro S with the 77 kWh battery and projected 330 odd mile range, in summer, with the wind behind you, other terms and conditions may apply.
All joking apart you can get pre facelifted models up to £22k and facelifted models from low to mid £20k depending on mileage, the facelifted id3 Pro S is nearly as sporty looking as the Cupra Born but a lot cheaper but over either I want the Renault Megane e Tech Iconic with the heat pump. :geek: :thumbsup:
 

Greenmachine said:
Hybrids aren't really the best at either.
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maybe a traditional hybrid, but the mild hybrid the OP was about, it works out well, I recently bought an Audi A3 mild hybrid,There is no electric range as such, its merely assisting the engine. I get decent performance and a credible mpg, I've had 56mpg on a run and around town average around 40 mpg. So if its economy thats important a 'mild hybrid' fits the bill nicely, if my cynical mind loooks at it, i see a cheat at getting the co2 range down using an electric motor with a traditional ICE.
 
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Yeah plug in hybrids are definitely only really good for a limited type of driving. If you venture out of that narrow window of needing both short electric range and long petrol range then a pure EV or pure fuel is better.

However, there's some plug in hybrids where sense doesn't really apply... I've got a hankering for a Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo, 690bhp of pure luxury and speed. And it'll do the school run/work commute on full electric, so it's actually very sensible! :p :rofl:

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In the strict engineering sense mild hybrids aren't even hybrids - they're IMA's, integrated motor assist.

Hybrids are old news. I was poncing about with a Pious two decades ago and nothing has really moved on with them since then, other than plug-in models that combine the worst of all worlds.
 
Sasquatch said:
In the strict engineering sense mild hybrids aren't even hybrids - they're IMA's, integrated motor assist.

Hybrids are old news. I was poncing about with a Pious two decades ago and nothing has really moved on with them since then, other than plug-in models that combine the worst of all worlds.
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I totally get that, it is an assist, no more, I dont see it as a hybrid
 
TallPaul_S said:
... I've got a hankering for a Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo, 690bhp of pure luxury and speed. And it'll do the school run/work commute on full electric, so it's actually very sensible! :p :rofl:
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I've heard of 'plausible deniability', but that logic is more like 'implausible confirmability'! :cool:
 
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