I want a discreet Tow bar

I'm new to this site so excuse me if I make mistakes.
I want to have a tow bar fitted and am looking for advice. Can anyone suggest the best bar to have please?
Ideally I don't want to faff about with taking on/off the hitch (swan neck), I would like a permanent bar which will accept trailers and bike carriers.
Many thanks in advance for advice and suggestions
 
Our detachable tow bar was fitted by PF Jones (arranged by them). It is a Westfailer as used by VW. They came to our house to do the fitting. The VW specific wiring goes underneath the van, can have 7 or 13 pin plug. Very pleased with it. Then we have the Pro User Plus tow bar mounted bike rack, tips right out of the way so the tailgate fully opens. Very happy all round.
 
Wildcamper said:
Our detachable tow bar was fitted by PF Jones (arranged by them). It is a Westfailer as used by VW. They came to our house to do the fitting. The VW specific wiring goes underneath the van, can have 7 or 13 pin plug. Very pleased with it. Then we have the Pro User Plus tow bar mounted bike rack, tips right out of the way so the tailgate fully opens. Very happy all round.
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Many thanks for this prompt reply. I appreciate all the advice I can get.
 
Adding my tuppence worth...I had a TT detachable towbar on a Range Rover for the last 5 years. I fitted it mainly (exclusively) to carry a 4-bike Buzzrack. My only comment would be that the towbar has a lot more flex than you will find with a fixed version (can’t compare it to other detachable brands) causing bikes to bounce a bit and test my anxiety levels...anyway, many thousands of bike carrying miles later, my anxiety was never vindicated so am thinking of going for the same again on my new (very soon to be collected) van to continue to carry four mountain bikes around on our various journeys
 
Sincere thanks to everyone who has replied to me. I get a crumb of comfort when reading that other people had initial concerns which have eventually turned out to be unfounded. In terms of fixed or detachable, as I originally said, I prefer the fixed so there isn't a need to faff about, however, there is a ground swell recommending detachable. I'm starting to lean that way.
My concern was always the rear parking sensors. But a detachable will resolve that issue, even if I'm not keen.
 
rover220 said:
1, doesnt matter what brand electrics are fitted. the swinging up part is a mechanical feature of the bar, nothing to do wiyh brand of electrics.

2, tow trust bar can be bought for £200 and ecs electrics are circa £150

3, ecs kit also comes fully wired for pins 9 and 10.
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Do you have any links for these please?
 
Old Dog said:
My concern was always the rear parking sensors. But a detachable will resolve that issue, even if I'm not keen.
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I know this was posted months ago, but for info, I have a fixed towbar and my rear parking sensors work perfectly.
 
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