Base1388 - yes, saw this - very cool, but I need space for four bikes. I'm trying to establish if I rack them sideways, will I take up less of the van length. If I can gain a little room then it might allow me to use a rear seat for the kids on rails and a table with swivel front seats - that with a slim side kitchen, cool box and single burner should give me what I need as a day camper - enough to sit in, have lunch and make a cup of tea - whilst keeping he back end pretty clear.
AK06FR - a good solution - like it, just what I'm thinking