Spare Wheel For T32 4Motion With AT Tyres

Captain Quick

204PS T32 4Mot DSG LWB Campervan MY2023
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I’m just about to fit a set of 17” Rogue Alloy CC3 wheels shod with Falken Wildpeak AT3WA 235/65 R17 tyres to my T6.1 T32 DSG 4Motion campervan and am wondering whether the factory fitted spare 17” steel wheel with a Continental VanContactEco 215/60 R17 will be usable in the event of a puncture. From what I can gather from willtheyfit.com there will be a difference in the rolling circumference of 49mm between the spare and the ATs. Will this difference be a problem with a 4Motion van? If so, if I fit a Wildpeak to the spare wheel, does anyone know if will fit in the spare wheel well? Alternatively, should I forget the steel spare and just carry a compressor and some tyre gunk? Any thoughts or input will be much appreciated.
 
Personally I wouldn't want to run a wheel with such a big difference as the other three on a 4Motion van.
In similar circumstances I just put a bigger aspect ratio tyre on my spare to make it almost identical in rolling radius to the other three.
You could put a 215/70/17 on your spare to make it only 0.4% different to the other wheels.
I put 215/75/16 on my spare to match my 235/55/18's, it does fit in the spare wheel carrier too, I'd rather have a spare than a can of gunk that won't always work.


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Best thing is to have same wheel and tyre as a spare. More expense of course but if one had two spares it would cover a warn tyre that has blown out by replacing an axle pair. I think that I will stick to steelies from now on. Perhaps I should sell the fancy alloys that came with it from new. I have hardly used them and buy a container load of steels and tyres! HaHa......where have the smilies gone🤣
 
Very many thanks for all the input guys. Having done some online research and had a chat with a local tyre fitter, I can’t find any 215/70 R17 tyre that is load rated for a T32. I was therefore wondering if a deflated 235/35 R17 Wildpeak fitted onto the existing steel 7J x 17 spare wheel would work. Otherwise, I think the way forward will be to carry a roadside tyre repair kit and forget about carrying a spare.
 
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Expensive!

Many thanks for the input @DaveD but sadly no one I’ve contacted can supply either of those and I didn’t fancy the idea of having a tailgate mounted full-size spare. I’ve ordered a tyre repair kit now which will do until such time I can find an alternative.
 
In the UK I carry one of the tyre repair kits and a 12v inflator. And my back up is roadside assistance. I run 20” wheels on a 4Mo.
If I’m going on a foreign road trip I put my 17” Devonports back on so I can use the spare.
Personally I’d use a non rated tyre on the spare if I had to as it would only be used to get me to a tyre shop for repair/replacement. Can’t be any worse than a space saver.
 
In the UK I carry one of the tyre repair kits and a 12v inflator. And my back up is roadside assistance. I run 20” wheels on a 4Mo.
If I’m going on a foreign road trip I put my 17” Devonports back on so I can use the spare.
Personally I’d use a non rated tyre on the spare if I had to as it would only be used to get me to a tyre shop for repair/replacement. Can’t be any worse than a space saver.
It would be worse using a non rated tyre if someone was involved in a serious accident, they may find themself uninsured.
 
It would be worse using a non rated tyre if someone was involved in a serious accident, they may find themself uninsured.
It's not quite as simple as that.
Even if the non load rated tyre was proven to be a contributory factor in the collision, (unlikely) the insurer would still be legally obliged to pay out any third parties.
They may decide to not pay out the policy holder for their own loss, or reduce the pay out to the policy holder, but none of this is the same as being "uninsured".
 
In the UK I carry one of the tyre repair kits and a 12v inflator. And my back up is roadside assistance. I run 20” wheels on a 4Mo.
If I’m going on a foreign road trip I put my 17” Devonports back on so I can use the spare.
Personally I’d use a non rated tyre on the spare if I had to as it would only be used to get me to a tyre shop for repair/replacement. Can’t be any worse than a space saver.
Not quite. The space savers are rated to carry the weight of the vehicle. Its the speed rating that they struggle with.. Thats why they are limited to 50mph and should only be fitted to the rear axle. ALthough I have been doing 70 on the motorway. and been overtaken by cars with space savers on the front doing well n excess of the 50 limit. :oops:
 
The tyre inflator kit from Amazon arrived this morning so once the new wheels and tyres arrive I’ll be removing the spare and leaving it off, after all it seems pointless carrying all that weight around when it’s not going to be used. All things considered, I favour @Bigsidavies’ approach so if we do a long trip in the summer months and unlikely to go off piste, I’ll put the Devonports and Contis back on and take the factory spare with us. In the meantime, I’ll keep my eye out for a suitable 215/70 R17 tyre I can use as a spare.
 
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You can modify the wheel carrier or pay a lot of cash to buy one off the shelf, ie HESS, that’s what I ended up doing as I was in a rush to get a spare fitted before a trip that matched the wheel and tyres on the van, I guess it depends on where you plan to travel, if in uk and you have breakdown recovery cover you could get away with the gunk, more remote trips you will want a proper sized tyre and wheel
 
You can modify the wheel carrier or pay a lot of cash to buy one off the shelf, ie HESS, that’s what I ended up doing as I was in a rush to get a spare fitted before a trip that matched the wheel and tyres on the van, I guess it depends on where you plan to travel, if in uk and you have breakdown recovery cover you could get away with the gunk, more remote trips you will want a proper sized tyre and wheel
That’s my thinking too. The Hess, and also Terranger carriers are ideal for expedition travel but their cost is difficult to justify. In any case, I’d rather keep weight of a spare wheel down low down and not have it up high on the tailgate if I carry one.
 
That’s my thinking too. The Hess, and also Terranger carriers are ideal for expedition travel but their cost is difficult to justify. In any case, I’d rather keep weight of a spare wheel down low down and not have it up high on the tailgate if I carry one.
Although I carry a spare wheel I also carry a tyre string kit and inflator and have used it in anger twice in 5 years on my T6, it's much quicker and easier than jacking the van up to change the wheel and gets you moving quickly and safely. For the very small amount of space it takes up it just makes sense IMO.
 
Although I carry a spare wheel I also carry a tyre string kit and inflator and have used it in anger twice in 5 years on my T6, it's much quicker and easier than jacking the van up to change the wheel and gets you moving quickly and safely. For the very small amount of space it takes up it just makes sense IMO.
Nice to know they work. I carry one of those too. Only ever used that sort of thing on my mtb and was a bit sceptical about if it would work on the van.
 
Nice to know they work. I carry one of those too. Only ever used that sort of thing on my mtb and was a bit sceptical about if it would work on the van.

I used it twice on my van, once on my wife's car and once on my daughter's car - every time it worked exactly as it should. I always smear plenty of tyre repair solution on the string before I insert it, and of course, I carry a 12V tyre inflator in the van too.
 
Many years ago more than 35 years or so any way I made a wheel carrier for my Landrover 101 Forward Control Radio Body. The tyres where huge 9.00x16 very tall and very heavy. I did not have a welder nor much ability in that direction but manage to fashion one out of Key Clamp Tubing and Joints. The radio body version was a rarity and mostly had spare tyres inside behind the passenger. The problem was taking all that weight and compensating for the different radii of the rear swing door and what the carrier would take. It as impossible to align the robust carrier hinges with the weaker door hinges. So I engineered an additional hinge close to the door mounting point.. the end result was a formidably strong swinging mount that swung along and with the opening and closing of the door. It was rattle free and safe. Of course eating ones spinach before lifting and dropping the spare was essential, the spare really was that heavy but it never failed. I was really proud of my engineering as no one else in the Land-Rover 101 Forward Control Registrar, had yet managed to come up with anything and just like on here, their where many far more advanced mechanically technical people than I. The vehicle is laid up on the property unmoved over the last 12++ years and it is still on there and did some a lot off road excursions some extreame.

Key Clamp, is very versatile and it might be possible to fashion something with a little bit of imagination. It would be far cheaper than a commercial product. I would have thought looking at the skill set on here that someone could manufacturer something out of box steel or tube and weld it all up with a jig to their own design.
 
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Many years ago more than 35 years or so any way I made a wheel carrier for my Landrover 101 Forward Control Radio Body. The tyres where huge 9.00x16 very tall and very heavy. I did not have a welder nor much ability in that direction but manage to fashion one out of Key Clamp Tubing and Joints. The radio body version was a rarity and mostly had spare tyres inside behind the passenger. The problem was taking all that weight and compensating for the different radii of the rear swing door and what the carrier would take. It as impossible to align the robust carrier hinges with the weaker door hinges. So I engineered an additional hinge close to the door mounting point.. the end result was a formidably strong swinging mount that swung along and with the opening and closing of the door. It was rattle free and safe. Of course eating ones spinach before lifting and dropping the spare was essential, the spare really was that heavy but it never failed. I was really proud of my engineering as no one else in the Land-Rover 101 Forward Control Registrar, had yet managed to come up with anything and just like on here, their where many far more advanced mechanically technical people than I. The vehicle is laid up on the property unmoved over the last 12++ years and it is still on there and did some a lot off road excursions some extreame.

Key Clamp, is very versatile and it might be possible to fashion something with a little bit of imagination. It would be far cheaper than a commercial product. I would have thought looking at the skill set on here that someone could manufacturer something out of box steel or tube and weld it all up with a jig to their own design.
That’s a neat solution for a Landie. I always loved the forward control version. As my T6.1 campervan conversion has a lifting tailgate, I’m not too keen on the idea of modifying the bodywork, so I think I’ll stick with the pump and gunge kit, and an AA subscription for now. On the other hand, should the need arise to go travelling in a post-nuclear winter scenario, I may change my mind and go for a full butch Mad Max swamper makeover. 😜
 
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