Spare Wheel For T32 4Motion With AT Tyres

That’s a neat solution for a Landie. I always loved the forward control version. As my T6.1 campervan conversion has a lifting tailgate, I’m not too keen on the idea of modifying the bodywork, so I think I’ll stick with the pump and gunge kit, and an AA subscription for now. On the other hand, should the need arise to go travelling in a post-nuclear winter scenario, I may change my mind and go for a full butch Mad Max swamper makeover. 😜
I have been a member of the AA the motoring recovery people not the drinking organisation since sometime in the 1970's when I was riding Motorcycles. Still a member, with most of the add-ons. It would be interesting to see if they really would come to my door! Not so bad from the top in the summer. I have only used them a very small number of times over all of those years but it can be very useful miles from anywhere. So each of us here have that recovery insurance, to be taken where ever, can of fuel or roadside repair. Over the years of non use some might say spend the money else where but when one needs it in a jam it is very welcome and just a phone call away.
 
That’s a neat solution for a Landie. I always loved the forward control version. As my T6.1 campervan conversion has a lifting tailgate, I’m not too keen on the idea of modifying the bodywork, so I think I’ll stick with the pump and gunge kit, and an AA subscription for now. On the other hand, should the need arise to go travelling in a post-nuclear winter scenario, I may change my mind and go for a full butch Mad Max swamper makeover. 😜
You might consider one of those bike carriers that mount on the rear door they can be adapted or modified to carry a spare wheel and tyre has multiple uses and does not need bolting to the door.
 
Another solution is to just carry the spare tyre of the correct size and type and no rim. If a serious puncture occurs the AA will attend or RAC what ever and arrange for a tyre change over. One of the problem that might occur if travelling away from home is that they cannot locate exactly the same tyre and size without an extended stay. At least then it will be a speedier process. :)
 
Another solution is to just carry the spare tyre of the correct size and type and no rim. If a serious puncture occurs the AA will attend or RAC what ever and arrange for a tyre change over. One of the problem that might occur if travelling away from home is that they cannot locate exactly the same tyre and size without an extended stay. At least then it will be a speedier process. :)
I’m beginning to think that carrying a spare tyre of the same spec as the others without the wheel is the way forwards. As you say, sourcing the right kind of tyre in an emergency can be a real challenge. I’m inclined to agree that having an unmounted Wildpeak 235/65 R17 in the spare wheel well would be a wise move. If it will physically fit and carefully wrapped up with plastic wrap to keep the muck off, I don’t see any reason why it shouldn’t work.
 
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I’m beginning to think that carrying a spare tyre of the same spec as the others without the wheel is the way forwards. As you say, sourcing the right kind of tyre can be a real challenge. I’m thinking that an unmounted Wildpeak 235/65 R17 could be fitted into the spare wheel well. I’d wrap it carefully with cling film to keep the muck off.
Could even put it on the roof bars if travelling full with family and kit because it would weigh comparatively little and is not sharp its soft. Even strap it on the bonnet if absolutely necessary, doubt that it would contravene health and safety regs due to its construction. Perhaps the latter is a bit Landroverish and Mr Young Policeman might want to check it out.

Could strap the tyre the back of the rear seats use it as a cushion when camped HaHa
 
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I will also need to rise to the challenge of spare wheel and tyre. Our Carevelle is carrier-less and would not fit even if I bought an under vehicle device at present tyres are 255/55R18 BFG KO2 AT. So I shall put my mind to what will be best for us, the Mrs might be out somewhere on her own perhaps must consider that. Have carried it in rear boot area lashed down but was a nuisance of course Carrier version might be the one. Could buy a carrier and look for something to convert it with rather than import it from far afield the ready made up versions are very expensive, wheel the carriers here are no joke price wise. The pull down but might even allow the spare wheel to be carried horizontally perhaps, now theirs a thought for those who might have concerns with weight distribution. One could even carry something in the hub of the wheel. :)
 
Could even put it on the roof bars if travelling full with family and kit because it would weigh comparatively little and is not sharp its soft. Even strap it on the bonnet if absolutely necessary, doubt that it would contravene health and safety regs due to its construction. Perhaps the latter is a bit Landroverish and Mr Young Policeman might want to check it out.

Could strap the tyre the back of the rear seats use it as a cushion when camped HaHa
I’ve seen unmounted AT tyres strapped down to pop-top roofs on ‘expedition campers’ in Switzerland. These were in addition to spare AT wheels on rims mounted on the tailgate on what looked like Seikel or Terranger carriers. The ones I saw had the tyres tied down with load straps clipped to rails running along each side of the roof and were secured with a bike security wire to deter the light-fingered. And it looked like they had a round piece of Paint Protection Film put on the roof underneath the tyre to protect the paintwork. A neat solution worth considering although fitting one on with a solar panel could be a bit of an issue I’d have thought.
 
I’ve seen unmounted AT tyres strapped down to pop-top roofs on ‘expedition campers’ in Switzerland. These were in addition to spare AT wheels on rims mounted on the tailgate on what looked like Seikel or Terranger carriers. The ones I saw had the tyres tied down with load straps clipped to rails running along each side of the roof and were secured with a bike security wire to deter the light-fingered. And it looked like they had a round piece of Paint Protection Film put on the roof underneath the tyre to protect the paintwork. A neat solution worth considering although fitting one on with a solar panel could be a bit of an issue I’d have thought.
I used to be a member or a couple of German Specific 4x4 sites, Pinzgauer and Volvo TGB, ect and a Finish site, perhaps still a member if I could remember passwords. I hope they do not like to be grouped together but boy do those guys get about! Off road venturing is a big thing especially in Germany, loads of developed kit both general and for specific vehicles. They really do things properly too TUV and everything all very high quality. Our bureaucracy in the UK is just so slow and inhibiting but in Germany is like on steroids. they have strict ethics and safety regulations but small manufacturers over their do not find it inhibits because it is run so smoothly. the only thing is everything is so expensive but I guess job for job they have better rewards and compensations.

The vehicle that I have wanted for so many years was the Stayer Pinzgauer 718K but alas I have never had or most probably never will have. They would and have made some most wonderful campers with full off road capability the 716 is 4x4 and the 718 6x6. Very narrow and compact but because of the forward control layout loads of interior space like our T's but narrower Portal swing axles very high tech mechanically. Also use by UK Armed Forces and after a while manufacture in GB for a while. Oh well! Acttually Pinzgauer 718MK is the particular variant that I would rather own😭
 
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When I mentioned HESS wheel carrier, it’s the one to fit underneath the van, it fits a 4 Motion, pricey but once it’s fitted, problem solved, I’ve got a 235 65 17 GGrabber underneath as we do use the tailgate bike rack for, er, bikes, also I didn’t want to block the view out the tailgate

On another note I once had a V8 101 as a loan vehicle while my defender was having some major works, had half the kids in the street in it for a few rides, loved the sound of that thing, Desert Strom camo soft top IMG_4234.png
 
I used to be a member or a couple of German Specific 4x4 sites, Pinzgauer and Volvo TGB, ect and a Finish site, perhaps still a member if I could remember passwords. I hope they do not like to be grouped together but boy do those guys get about! Off road venturing is a big thing especially in Germany, loads of developed kit both general and for specific vehicles. They really do things properly too TUV and everything all very high quality. Our bureaucracy in the UK is just so slow and inhibiting but in Germany is like on steroids. they have strict ethics and safety regulations but small manufacturers over their do not find it inhibits because it is run so smoothly. the only thing is everything is so expensive but I guess job for job they have better rewards and compensations.

The vehicle that I have wanted for so many years was the Stayer Pinzgauer 718K but alas I have never had or most probably never will have. They would and have made some most wonderful campers with full off road capability the 716 is 4x4 and the 718 6x6. Very narrow and compact but because of the forward control layout loads of interior space like our T's but narrower Portal swing axles very high tech mechanically. Also use by UK Armed Forces and after a while manufacture in GB for a while. Oh well! Acttually Pinzgauer 718MK is the particular variant that I would rather own😭
I’m a Pinzgauer fan too. They make superb camper conversions, especially the ambulances, radio and command versions. At the last MoD auction I went to there were 12 of them on the sale list. A couple were wrecks with lots of parts missing but many of the others were complete and could have been recommissioned without much difficulty. What staggered me was that none had more than 22k km on their odometers and a couple had under 5k. Prices for decent 4x4 or 6x6 runners were between £14-18k. I was sorely tempted to put in a bid but when I floated the idea with SWMBO she wasn’t too keen.
 
When I mentioned HESS wheel carrier, it’s the one to fit underneath the van, it fits a 4 Motion, pricey but once it’s fitted, problem solved, I’ve got a 235 65 17 GGrabber underneath as we do use the tailgate bike rack for, er, bikes, also I didn’t want to block the view out the tailgate
Is the Grabber underneath your van mounted on a rim or unmounted?
 
I’m a Pinzgauer fan too. They make superb camper conversions, especially the ambulances, radio and command versions. At the last MoD auction I went to there were 12 of them on the sale list. A couple were wrecks with lots of parts missing but many of the others were complete and could have been recommissioned without much difficulty. What staggered me was that none had more than 22k km on their odometers and a couple had under 5k. Prices for decent 4x4 or 6x6 runners were between £14-18k. I was sorely tempted to put in a bid but when I floated the idea with SWMBO she wasn’t too keen.
When I bought my 101FC it only had a few hundred miles on it The inside engine cover was that Landrover bronze green I think it was. Shiny The outside was camo. I remember biding on line some where I think it may have been in Europe somewhere. supposed to be a sealed bid. I lost out anyway that was for a 6 wheel Pinze. At first the prices where affordable but someone formed a company and bought practically any and all Pinzes available they had first no and inside info I understand. They resold them at a high price and eventually I gave up looking they where just too expensive for me at the time. The early air cooled engine variants where still affordable that is the 710 and 712, 4 and 6 wheelers respectively quite good but drum brakes and an air cooled petrol . The later 716 and 718 had VW 6cyl Diesel engines indirect injection. I did not like the the engine too much but it was smooth, certainly quieter than the air-cooled engine. Disc brakes all round. The chassis was an integral spine connecting gear box and individual transfer boxes for the swing portal axles. Very specialised very riggid and strong. I have driven an older 712 air-cooled 6x6 job here in Wales. A German 712 Pinzgauer owning family came over with their young daughter to stay with us. They where lovely. They camped in one of our fields and I took them out off roading, went through Strata across all the river crossing fords some deepiush at the time, they absolutely loved it. They where very surprised we had that sort of thing in the UK. We enjoyed there company very much, extremely polite and friendly and i also enjoyed my drive and being driven in the 712 very smooth over the bumps so was my 6x6 Volvo TGB. The more axles the better I feel. totally different to 4x4 far less joggling around both machines having portals and trick gearboxes. Thing is getting parts. Some bits are easy other bits very specialised. I forget the process for parts, when I was on line with the forums i was up to date but that is years ago. I think that the Pinzgauer could be out of service for a little while if something broke while waiting for parts. Engine was ok just a common VW its the axles and gearbox's. Volvo engine was 6 cyl volvo petrol just like the Saint drove except his was 1500cc, 4, and not the 3,000 strait 6. Still have the Volvo and the 101 lying near too the house but undriven and rotting away.

I am drifting off toppic must stay on track too easy to romance.
 
Thanks. Yeah Bognor Motors modify, but that one hell of a trip for me. I did wonder why the T5 Upgrade site said 4 motion only? Don’t fits a regular van no problem?
 
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