Welsh Coast Camper owner

Hi all, I've just bought a 2016 T6 2 birth campervan. I think it was a recent conversion by Welsh Coast Campers and it all looks pretty new inside. I plan on having weekends away in Derbyshire to start with and who knows where after that:) A couple of mods I plan to do is to install aircon through Alpinair and also a diesel night heater and possibly a pop-top if I get bored of stooping over inside.
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Hello all, am going to look at Welsh Coast Campers this week with a view of putting a deposit down. What is your experience of them? Look great on the website but have seen 1 dodgy review online which is putting me off slightly.
 
Snap!

Just taken deliver of a T6 from Welsh Coast Campers too.

What is wrong with your lights? We have not had a chance to get out, given all the best weather.

I have a long list of upgrades. It's going to be fun!

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Hi,

I'm new to the forum and new to campers vans. Me and are looking to buy our first van and I've had a look at Welsh Coast campers and the amazing vans they sell. Can't get much background on the company though so wondered what your experience has been like. They are a 3 1/2 hour drive away from us so it's not hugely practical to nip down and have a look round.

Any feedback on your experience and how the vans is and any general advice would be gratefully received.

Regards,

Tom
 
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and new to campers vans. Me and are looking to buy our first van and I've had a look at Welsh Coast campers and the amazing vans they sell. Can't get much background on the company though so wondered what your experience has been like. They are a 3 1/2 hour drive away from us so it's not hugely practical to nip down and have a look round.

Any feedback on your experience and how the vans is and any general advice would be gratefully received.

Regards,

Tom
appoinments only on Saturday, closed Sunday. Open during week. call ahead i recommend.
 
I’d recommend turning up without an appointment, then you’ll see how they operate without the ‘gloss’.
 
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and new to campers vans. Me and are looking to buy our first van and I've had a look at Welsh Coast campers and the amazing vans they sell. Can't get much background on the company though so wondered what your experience has been like. They are a 3 1/2 hour drive away from us so it's not hugely practical to nip down and have a look round.

Any feedback on your experience and how the vans is and any general advice would be gratefully received.

Regards,

Tom
I found them to be hit and miss.

Paul the owner/sales guy is abit of a over promise under deliver kind of guy in my opinion. When you talk to him nothing is to much and he's really friendly and chatty but I get the impression forgetful hard work to get anything from. Especially after you have taken delivery they just don't want to know you.

I bought mine over the phone and without seeing it in the flesh, I arranged the finance through them and booked in a collection date. Up to this point everything was going well. Then the day before I was due to travel 4hrs to collect it I got a email from Paul that just said we are running abit behind and the van won't be ready for another 2 weeks. I was annoyed but i thought these things happen give them a chance and arrange another collection date with them. Now I must add here it was only at this point I realised Paul had had the finance paid out to them and my first payment was due to come out in 30 days as I received the letters from the finance company. I'd also set up the insurance so had paid for that.

A few days before I was due to collect for the second time I emailed to confirm everything was on track and was told it was still behind due to staff issues and they would need to postpone but would deliver it to me. Now I really wanted this van, had done the paperwork and in my head was committed so I agreed they had to deliver it to me and they refunded me £1k due to the hassle they had caused. Now this was around Christmas and Paul did say they was having staffing issues but at this point I'd lost all hope in him tbh.

The van got delivered and it had zero service history with it as Paul had said it would. They hadn't even sent the invoice for the service they did and had to battle to get that e-mailed over to me on the day it was delivered. They sent over the invoice for the service they performed and told me the rest was stored online at VW and they don't come with service books anymore.

I later found out this was all bollocks and the van has never seen the inside of a VW garage in its life. But having it checked over with my mechanic it seems all ok.

The van arrived dirty, and I don't mean dirty from driving I mean inside hadn't been cleaned. At all, even before the conversation they obviously don't clean them as since owning it when doing work on it and undoing what Welsh coast campers did I have found mud and dirt under there work.

The quality of there workmanship isn't bad, it's not amazing and I've found bits that are sloppy but I'm abit OCD and like things done how I like them done.

I love the van, the experience was abit of a nightmare and honestly if I hadn't of been on the hook for the finance I probably would have told Paul to shove the van up his arse but by the time I'd realised what was going on with them i was past the cooling off period so could reject the van as not seen it but the finance would still be liable for.

Paul's dad Phil and there's another bloke who name I can't remember (London accent) are decent, helpful to a degree and I get the impression sick of mopping up after Paul.

Now all that's just my experience with Welsh coast campers, having had the van 6 months I love it, drives great and the warranty company are great to deal with (my sliding door handle broke and they sorted it with no hassle) the price was alot better than anything I'd found elsewhere for similar and the only major downside I'd say I'd had is dealing with Paul Lloyd and his promises, having never met him I always have this mental image of him in a sheep skin coat with a big cigar in his mouth. I've since googled him and if you do the same there's a few interesting news paper articles on him.
I was of the opinion everyone deserves a second chance and the papers usually just print crap but wish I'd found that article before giving them my money, might of thought abit harder about the bargain I thought I was getting.
 
appoinments only on Saturday, closed Sunday. Open during week. call ahead i recommend.
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and new to campers vans. Me and are looking to buy our first van and I've had a look at Welsh Coast campers and the amazing vans they sell. Can't get much background on the company though so wondered what your experience has been like. They are a 3 1/2 hour drive away from us so it's not hugely practical to nip down and have a look round.

Any feedback on your experience and how the vans is and any general advice would be gratefully received.

Regards,

Tom
I recently purchased a van from WWC and my experience was pretty much consistant with bdnck's.

I had been looking for a while and seeing the vans online, they had everything I wanted. I did research and saw a couple of bad reviews but spoke to a few people who had purchased recently and thought I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. I am about an hour away so I arranged to call in and have a look.
The vans on display were very nicely finished and Paul seemed like a bit of a geezer but was a nice enough chap.

A couple of days later I called up and put a deposit down. I was told by Paul they would start the work straight away and it would be ready in 3 weeks.
I didn't hear much after that but called up a couple of times and spoke to Simon, who I found very pleasant to deal with and nothing was too much trouble. I made sure all the promises that Paul made were being fitted to the van, (heater, awning rail, tow bar etc).
I was told the van was behind schedule a couple of weeks due to the upholsterer being on hols and they were waiting for that to be completed. A bit annoying as maybe they should have accounted for planned hols but it was what it was.

When it was arranged for me to collect, I caught the train over and Simon picked me up from the train station. I had to wait 30-45 mins for Paul as he was out somewhere but was happy I was getting the camper that day so not too much bother. We did the handover andI paid the money.

While we were handing over, Paul mentioned the spare ket was damaged and I would need to get another from VW and he would pay for it, which I thought was good.

I travelled home for just over an hour and was very happy with the van. Took the family out and about in it the next day and all seemed to run fine.

That week I noticed the radio wasn't connecting my phone. (the spec had advertised a 'double DIN hands free unit') When I enquired what this was, Iw as told it was bluetooth and all hands free to use with mobiles.

I have a friendly local garage I use a couple doors down the road and emailed them take a look at the radio in the first instance. They asked for the reg and I looked at the pic I had taken and gave them the reg from this. They couldn't find it on the DVLA database. I thought this was strange as I had purchased insurance and done my check prior to purchasing it. I checked and got the same results.
I checked the paperwork and the reg on the paperwork was different to the number plate they had printed for the van!! there was 1 letter incorrect! I had been driving around in this not even realising!

I contacted Paul the next day and advised him of this and he did appear shocked and advised someone would be in 'trouble on Monday'.
He advised me to get another plate sorted and would reimburse me along with the key. There was a bit of a wait for the key so I told him I would wait for it all and contact for payment when all complete, which he agreed to.

The garage has looked at the radio and advised it is not capable of connections to mobile phones and I would be best to get an upgrade. I contacted Paul again to advise I now had the key and would like some money from him. Paul told me to email the invoices and he would transfer that day (this did not happen!).
I also told him about the radio and that one of the speakers they installed in the back was not working. Paul agreed to fit an upgraded radio and sort the speaker if I took it in. He told me to call Simon the next day and arrange with him.

I contacted Simon and told him the issues and he advised he would need to order the radio and would contact me when it came in. This was 10 days ago so I'm still waiting to hear. I will be contacting him tomorrow as he told me he would call me today. I also told Simon I had not received payment from Paul and to please give him a nudge to make payment. (Still no payment).

I have since text Paul twice, which he ignores, and spoke to him on the phone asking him for payment, which he says he will do that day when he gets back to the office. (He always seems to be driving).

Sorry about the long response but that is my experience so far. Really nice van but issues with Paul and getting him to stick to what he promises seems to be the issues.

He has agreed to pay me the money which is about £350 in total and I do think he genuinely means that and will eventually pay (hopefully). But absolute nightmare having to chase him down all the time! I really don't have time to do this every day!!
Hoping when I speak to Simon tomorrow he will sort for me!
 
TLRD:

Great conversion with good quality components. Price is quite good compared to current market. You will be dropped like a hot potato as soon as the sale goes through and campervan is delivered. If you are persistent, you get a response. If you are very very persistent, you get progress post sale. The donor Transporter was not cleaned properly before fitting. I found dirt under the door sills and mats.

WOULD I RECOMMENT WCC ?

MAYBE. I would not pay the balance of payment until a full inspection and snagging was done at site with Paul and preferably a mechanic on the date of handover. Then agree in writing items to be fixed before the balance of payment is completed. I know this is challenging for some people, given where WCC is based and was impossible for me.

FULL REVIEW:

While looking for inspiration online for doing my own VW Campervan conversion, I came across Welsh Coast Campers website and fell in love with their two tone Signature Series conversions. I did a bit of research on the company – there wasn’t much out there that I could see – then phoned and spoke with Paul Lloyd directly.

Paul is the perfect salesman and very passionate about the campervans he sells. He is very personable and we hit it off immediately as he owns some quite special BMX bikes, including a PK Ripper which can be seen in the showroom in some of the photos on his website. He told me a bit about the company and the amount of business they do and discussed the pros and cons of doing the conversion myself versus buying directly from him. These points hit home as I could see from the photos it would take me the best part of a year to source a donor van and convert it myself to the same standard.

Paul emailed the build spec which had everything I wanted, or so I thought but more on that later… I paid the deposit and agreed a delivery date of early December which would coincide with a trip to London to save on travel costs as I live near Edinburgh. After I paid the full balance, I emailed again with the agreed date and time for pickup.

Roll forward 3 weeks and I email Paul the day before pickup to make final arrangements. Paul replies back at 7.30pm – “I’m afraid we’ve had a problem in the paint department … the camper is not going to be ready … we are if you wish more than happy to deliver the van to you free of charge”. We agreed on a delivery date in January as I was away through most of December. By way of compensation, Paul offered a pair of black roof bars with his compliments.

Roll forward 2 months and I take delivery of the campervan at my home, with not much of a handover. The poor delivery guy was knackered and far from able to do a formal handover after an 8 hour drive. The next day I had to start a snagging list, which would take the next 3 months to sort out; awning rail not fitted, heating not fitted, complementary roof rails not fitted, no spare wheel/wheel jack, hole in the back of the driver seat.

At this stage, Paul handed over to Simon who is responsible for "Operations", however Simon is not authorised to make any decisions, that’s Paul’s job. I spent a lot of time bouncing between Simon and Paul by email and phone calls agreeing (1) there is a problem (2) how to fix it (3) how much it will cost (4) who will do the work.

Roll forward 4 months from payment and 2 months from delivery, we have some progress. Simon has sent a replacement front seat cover, which I ended up fitting myself (I am quite handy DIY). Paul has finally paid for a local campervan converter to fit the awning rail. I have given up on the roofbars as a lost cause. While the heater was on the website listing, it was not on the spec email I received, so Paul did not pay for that to be fitted - I thought about going to small claims, but finally give up on that idea...

WHAT IS THE CAMPERVAN LIKE?

Myrtle, as she is now called in a lovely 2 tone campervan conversion based on a 100k mile work van with a good service history. My local trusted mechanic did a check of the chassis, underside and engine and everything checked out great. The only feedback was the wheel nuts were tightened on to a ridiculous level of torque. He had to use a 6ft bar to remove them.

The conversion is great, the choice of materials and colours is good and very retro. Everything fitted was new and in good working order. Strangely the top counter and table used 10mm plywood, which means the edging sits proud – something I will have to replace as putting the table on the rail is challenging.

It was clear that the front cabin has not been cleaned at all. I have since removed all the trim parts and completed a deep clean. There was “workman” dirt everywhere and sand/dirt in all the door sills and under the front mat. There was no spare wheel or wheel jack, which I had to sort out myself. While not a legal requirement, still very annoying. I have found two small rust spots in the past few weeks, which I will have to address myself.

AM I HAPPY?

Yes I am delighted and as the Paul experience fades into a forgotten memory, I am left with a beautiful campervan. I didn’t get to do the full conversion, but WCC has left me with some DIY activities to do on my own.
 
Thanks all for the replies and the honesty. I think with being first time prospective buyers and having reading through the feedback I'll keep my wallet in my pocket for the time being.
 
I have a WCC van which we absolutely love. We bought it via Celtic motors who deal with WCC directly.

First trip away we had a few snags, minor stitches missing in headrest, fascia board under r&r came free and a a small amount of carpet on the bed board came free. Called Celtic whilst away who put me I contact with WCC. Popped in to see them in way home and within minutes they had several techs on the van. Headrest was repaired in a few minutes, bed board glued properly whilst the fascia board was repaired. This was due to having been cut by cnc and not hand. But was put correct whilst I waited. Lovely chat with the owner of WCC who gave me some tips/tricks as a newbie.

Fastforward a few days and I have rattle from the headliner and a leak on sliding door. Back to WCC I go... Again all over the van in minutes. Paul himself fixed the rattle, this was caused by the panel near th interior lights not being clipped correctly. The leak turned out to be carpet on the sliding door running a little too high. This was cut away and door adjusted (on another visit) and have had no issues since.

Have we had minor issues with the van... Yes.... Are they to be expected on a new build van!? I'd say yes but what matters to me is how they put things right and the service in my opinion has always been spot on!
 
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