Which Cross Climates? There are several and they get mixed reviews around longevity.
 
Which Cross Climates? There are several and they get mixed reviews around longevity.
I haven’t looked recently what’s new, at the time I was looking at the Agilis, but they weren’t available in my size. I’ve had Michelins in the past on other vehicles & never had a bad set tbh. I got 35k miles out of the last ones on my T5 4mot.
 
That's why I asked as the agilis don't seem to hold up well against the crossclimate2 but there are other versions too...
 
Just wondering what tyres people are using on their 4 Motions. In Australia, so I don't have as much choice down here.
Thinking of changing to a new 4Motion that comes with 16 inch pepper pots. I would like to put tyres with better grip for a bit of gravel and grass surfaces when needed.
I have Michelin LTX Trail on my T6 now, (not 4 Motion) and they are perfect when I do need them, but are 102 rating, which I think will not be enough for next van.
Any suggestions from your experiences please,
Cheers.
 
My front tyres are worn and need replacing but I must confess to being completely confused about the tyre rating. The tyres are marked 205/65 R16C, but when I look up tyres guides, it makes no sense as the C would imply a speed rating of 37mph and the load rating 16 doesn't even exist What am I missing? The van is a T6 T30 van modified as a camper.
 
My front tyres are worn and need replacing but I must confess to being completely confused about the tyre rating. The tyres are marked 205/65 R16C, but when I look up tyres guides, it makes no sense as the C would imply a speed rating of 37mph and the load rating 16 doesn't even exist What am I missing? The van is a T6 T30 van modified as a camper.
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16" is tyre diameter

Further explanation:

 
They’ll be a load rating too something like 103 - particularly important to have the right load rating on a commercial vehicle!
 
205mm is the width.
65 is the aspect ratio 65% of the width.
R is radial.
16" is the diameter.
C is Commercial rated.
 
Thanks all. Yes sorry, I did figure that 16 was the diameter. I was expecting a suffix of the form e.g. 90V but I have a C as it started life as a van. Thanks for all your help
 
I have just changed from Continetal Vancontact 200 tyres 205 65 16 (very hard wearing but noisy and gave a harsh ride) Put on 4 Falken Van01 215 65 16 only driven short distance since but an immediate improvement in ride quality (comfort) and noise! It'll be interesting to see how they last!
 
Hi, I've recently acquired a LWB, high roof T6 with original steel wheels. I need a complete set of tyres and I'm particularly concerned about noise and ride quality.

Can anyone comment on my current No.1 option: Goodyear Efficient Grip Cargos?

The Goodyears appeal to me because they seem good all-rounders (fuel efficiency, wet performance, etc) and are supposed to be especially quiet. Also, I've had 3 sets of Goodyears on cars in the past, and they've all performed really well for moderately-priced tyres.

I like the original/ basic van look, so don't intend changing the wheels unless there's a strong argument for doing so. I won't be lowering the van, for the same reason.

The existing tyres are standard size, i.e. 205/65 R16C 107/105T (Continentals on the back and Generals on the front). The van's a T32 and in its current state (more or less empty) the ride can be very harsh, although I do plan a DIY camper conversion, so there'll be a lot more weight there in a few months time, I hope!

Apart from the make, would I gain anything comfort-wise by going wider (not sure how wide I can go on the existing rims?), or perhaps opting for a lower load rating (but not sure how low I can go on a T32?).

An obvious option is to reduce pressures, but I gather under-inflation is as big a safety risk as over-inflation, so not sure how low I ought to go.

Any thoughts much appreciated!
 
On my t6 lwb high top I went from factory supplied 205s to 215 Michelin Agilis. Very happy and will replace with the same, if possible.
I’m a big fan of the Michelin Agilis. Great in all conditions including deep snow.
 
Yeah - I just put a set of 205/65/16" Agilis Cross Climate 2 on mine. Feel safer - probably purely psychological but didn't feel as safe with the budgets that were on them at the time.
 
I've been on 215/65/16 Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Cargo all seasons for nearly a year, which seem to get similarly positive reviews to the Michelin CC Agilis. They've been faultless and it's nice to know they will cope better than standard summer tyres in wintery conditions or a bit of mud.
 
I am running Michelin Agilis CrossClimate 215/65 R16 106T on my Claytons.

Good for muddy campsites and our somewhat pot holed roads.

All Season. Have the snowy mountain symbol on them which is required in parts of the EU at certain times of the year.

Would recommend.

Used by all the local Ambulances etc so must be quite good !
 
Many thanks for all the quick and helpful replies, guys!

So, lots of support for the Michelins. Not surprised, as I've read lots of favourable reports elsewhere, and Michelin are one of my favourite makes too.

Like the Goodyears, they're rated highly for wet performance, fuel economy, etc, but there's one area where the Goodyears have a clear advantage: noise. They're supposed to produce just 69 decibels, against the Michelin's 72. Apparently, because of the logarithmic way the decibel scale works, that actually means the Michelins produce twice as much noise as the Goodyears! (I know - sounds implausible, but pretty certain I've got it right.)

That's not to say they're at all bad (72-73 seems pretty typical, even among the more expensive tyres), but the Goodyears do seem particularly good in that respect (seem to recall only the similarly-priced Bridgestones come close).

As the existing tyres make quite a racket (especially the Generals on the front), it's something we're a bit sensitive about.

Still open to thoughts on tyres, though, including on the issue of 205/65 v 215/65.

I gather the slightly taller sidewall on the 215s (I know the second figure is a percentage of the first, not a measurement in itself) is reckoned to give a slightly softer ride, but I wonder if the extra few mms makes a noticeable difference? I can see there'd be a little more grip, too, but a corresponding drop in mpg as well.
 
Yes, I got some weird looks for looking at emergency vehicle tyres when they were parked up.
Was wondering whether to go 205 or 215 but the ambulances in our area had 205's. So that is good enough for me.
 
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