16” Tyre Recommendations
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Thanks for your further thoughts, Whodat and alter. No doubting the support for Michelin Agilis Crossclimates on here!
I must put the record straight: Having checked on the Goodyear website it turns out the Goodyear Efficient Grips are summer tyres only! So, not suitable at all for anyone (like me) searching for 4-season rubber!
In which case I may well put myself in the Michelin camp, the only decision being which width/ profile to go for. The wider 215s might be a little more comfortable, from what I've read, but the fuel rating drops from C to D (greater rolling resistance? - difficult to quantify what that translates to in real world environmental impact and cost, though).
There is something still niggling, though: the Michelins can take more weight than they need to, and will therefore be harder-riding than necessary.
The axle weights on my van are 1680 front and 1600 rear. Halving the higher of these gives me 840kg, so the minimum loading rating I could go for is 102 (translates to 850kg). An Agilis Crossclimate rated at 106 is strong enough to manage 950kg. I'm guessing it has to be a fair bit stiffer to carry the extra 100kg.
So, a bit more research to do yet. It's half the fun, though...
I must put the record straight: Having checked on the Goodyear website it turns out the Goodyear Efficient Grips are summer tyres only! So, not suitable at all for anyone (like me) searching for 4-season rubber!
In which case I may well put myself in the Michelin camp, the only decision being which width/ profile to go for. The wider 215s might be a little more comfortable, from what I've read, but the fuel rating drops from C to D (greater rolling resistance? - difficult to quantify what that translates to in real world environmental impact and cost, though).
There is something still niggling, though: the Michelins can take more weight than they need to, and will therefore be harder-riding than necessary.
The axle weights on my van are 1680 front and 1600 rear. Halving the higher of these gives me 840kg, so the minimum loading rating I could go for is 102 (translates to 850kg). An Agilis Crossclimate rated at 106 is strong enough to manage 950kg. I'm guessing it has to be a fair bit stiffer to carry the extra 100kg.
So, a bit more research to do yet. It's half the fun, though...
Did you make a decision on this in the end? Looking at a van with 16s and weighing up the options - the only ones on the door panel in 16 are 205/65/16c 107/105 and 215/65/16c 106/104. I know other people have different tyres but I dont really understand the insurance etc impact of going for a lower rated tyre and furthermore that people say 102 can be enough. If so, that opens up the option of traditional crossclimate 2 instead of agilis which a fuel economy rating of B instead of D which is quite appealing...
The load rating of your tyres will depend entirely on what weight van you have.
Insurance wise, If you put 98 rated tyres on any van above a T26 and have an accident your company may find it as a reason not to pay out.
More info in the pinned thread here.
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Great thanks! I need to spend more time in the pinned threads. I can see the T28 needs minimum of 100T rated tyres, but I dont understand the maths. Why is it not 2800/4=700KG = 96T? I'm sure I'm doing something silly here but not sure what.The load rating of your tyres will depend entirely on what weight van you have.
Insurance wise, If you put 98 rated tyres on any van above a T26 and have an accident your company may find it as a reason not to pay out.
More info in the pinned thread here.
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I was about to get a set of these but wonder what the effect of E rating for economy? https://www.halfords.com/tyres/elec...season-cargo-205/65-r16-107/105t-4222514.html
My current tyres are Hankook, B rated.
Another option is Buy Falken EuroAll Season Van11 205/65R16 107/105T tyres | 4250427418094 | Protyre
As I only drive around 5k miles pa, they could well do the job?
What’s the view on Falkens?
Thanks.
My current tyres are Hankook, B rated.
Another option is Buy Falken EuroAll Season Van11 205/65R16 107/105T tyres | 4250427418094 | Protyre
As I only drive around 5k miles pa, they could well do the job?
What’s the view on Falkens?
Thanks.
It's to do with axle loading. The weight isn't split equally on all four tyres. Rears take more load. There's an axle load rating plate inside the engine bay and it's the highest of these that you divide by 2.
As per the pinned thread.
The minimum load rating of a wheel will be half the given axle weight for that particular wheel but be aware that axle weight is not half of the vehicle max weight eg a T32 (3200KG) has an axle weight of 1710/1720 KG so minimum load rating would be half of 1720 = 860KG
ahh gotcha - sorry its right there, I skim read the wheels one and focussed on the tyres post. my mistake.
Sorry for slow reply sam_glasgow. Been so busy working on van I've not been watching emails/ Forums!
Yes, I made my decision and was really happy with it until I read your comments and wondered if I'd overlooked an even better option!
I went for a set of Agilis CrossClimates, size 215/65, and I love 'em! They run at much lower pressures than the ones they replaced (max. pressure 54psi, compared with 79 for the old Continentals!!), and they're also 6-ply rather than 8, which are presumably are the reasons they give a much more comfortable ride, despite having a 106 load rating, which is more than enough. Also, they have a relatively chunky tread, which people say grips well on slippery campsites, etc, although I've not tested that yet (the tread's nothing like the really knobbly ones you see on some vans, though; I imagine they're not so nice on the road).
The downsides of the Agilises are a) as you say, they're not as good as some re fuel efficiency (which I'm keeping an eye on) and b) the chunky-ish tread does produce a slight rumble at higher speeds/ on certain surfaces. I'm sensitive to excess noise, but as they're quieter overall than the previous set and I'm likely to be keeping the speed down for financial and environmental reasons, I think I'm going to get on fine with them, especially as the extra grip might be very useful now and again.
The reason your message made me think again is that I'd totally overlooked the CrossClimate 2 option! Perhaps they just didn't come up when I did my searches, or maybe I discounted them in the belief that they're more of an SUV tyre than a van tyre, although I'm not sure what difference that makes if the load rating is up to scratch. Perhaps van tyres have extra reinforcement to cope with the kerbing and other abuse they're subject to, which I'd guess isn't such an issue for most of us on this forum. I certainly would have considered them if I'd known they were suitable and their efficiency rating is that much better!
I'd be very interested if anyone else could shed any light on the pros and cons of CrossClimate 2 tyres, or of SUV tyres, fitted to Transporters.
Anyway, hope you end up with tyres you're happy with. They don't always get the attention they deserve, considering how important they are, and they're not cheap, either (£614 inc. Vat for mine, and that was with 15% off).
