Cost of cross climate

I do not know why they dictated that the spare wheel should go under the rear end? Always filthy, wet and difficult to extract. The wheels rot and the tyres are exposed. The Toyota Landcruiser 80 series that I had was the same. Its mechanical drop mechanism jammed with mud stones and what ever else might be thrown up. It might have been better if it was in a lidded box on the floor of a wheel well inside the boot (trunk) or preferably mounted on the rear door on a dedicated hanger just like many off road vehicles. :(
 
Michelin agilis cross climate are a commercial tyre for vans I’ve had mine 2 years and I’m very impressed,good on wet roads,snow,camping fields,dirt tracks and Scottish single track roads,I’ve done 18000 miles and the fronts are 25%worn and the rears hardly worn at all, So for me I think they are good value for money even if they are over £200 each and I would buy them again

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I had Cross Climates and Cross Climate 2 on previous vehicles and found them brilliant in the snow (not that we get too much of the white stuff where we currently are) - I literally drove round everything else marooned or stranded (Octavia 1.9Tdi) with ease. Good wear rates and economy with reasonable grip and noise - but they attracted nails like magnets - I lost a few part worn tyres through nails at positions on the tread that couldn't safely an legally repaired. It made them expensive and unviable.

We've got Goodyear Vector 4Seasons on the car (500c) and touch wood, all good so far.
 
I had Cross Climates and Cross Climate 2 on previous vehicles and found them brilliant in the snow (not that we get too much of the white stuff where we currently are) - I literally drove round everything else marooned or stranded (Octavia 1.9Tdi) with ease. Good wear rates and economy with reasonable grip and noise - but they attracted nails like magnets - I lost a few part worn tyres through nails at positions on the tread that couldn't safely an legally repaired. It made them expensive and unviable.

We've got Goodyear Vector 4Seasons on the car (500c) and touch wood, all good so far.
Yes they are good in the snow.
 
Grip, handling, traction, and safety first for me and will pay more for tyres that offer those attributes mileage of the slightest interest.
I’m with you although comfort and noise are up there for me too.
The tyres were comfortable, quiet and had plenty of grip - never once got sketchy unlike some Avons I once had years ago or the cheap stuff they put on pool cars at the building firm I worked for.
You can have it all.
For all season Michelin CC came out winner of many tests (based on your priorities) for years. Being Michelin they also lasted longer than the competition though.
 
Michelin agilis cross climate are a commercial tyre for vans I’ve had mine 2 years and I’m very impressed,good on wet roads,snow,camping fields,dirt tracks and Scottish single track roads,I’ve done 18000 miles and the fronts are 25%worn and the rears hardly worn at all, So for me I think they are good value for money even if they are over £200 each and I would buy them again

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I see these on all the West Midlands ambulances.
 
I had Cross Climates and Cross Climate 2 on previous vehicles and found them brilliant in the snow (not that we get too much of the white stuff where we currently are) - I literally drove round everything else marooned or stranded (Octavia 1.9Tdi) with ease. Good wear rates and economy with reasonable grip and noise - but they attracted nails like magnets - I lost a few part worn tyres through nails at positions on the tread that couldn't safely an legally repaired. It made them expensive and unviable.

We've got Goodyear Vector 4Seasons on the car (500c) and touch wood, all good so far.
The tread patterns are very similar- odd one would pick up nails more readily.
 
I’m with you although comfort and noise are up there for me too.
The tyres were comfortable, quiet and had plenty of grip - never once got sketchy unlike some Avons I once had years ago or the cheap stuff they put on pool cars at the building firm I worked for.
You can have it all.
For all season Michelin CC came out winner of many tests (based on your priorities) for years. Being Michelin they also lasted longer than the competition though.
Yes comfort is important for ones self but also limiting shock to the chassis and assisting suspension in that sense. Limiting shock loading also assists handling and grip warding against sudden breakaway unless too soft. You are correct I feel that the more expensive premium brands tend to make over all, the best tyres generally though occasional exceptions will occur every now and then and in very specialised markets. Tyre testing reviews are important to read but often put their own slant and bias and we cannot always be absolutely certain that a they are not biased by commercial gain, self interest or by lack of effort being applied to accurate testing by ignorance. I also have an interest in Hi Fidelity Sound and read on line reviews and subscribe to HiFi News Magazine but I am concerned about impartiality generally. Over the years one comes come across gross marketing inaccuracies that are perpetuated and encouraged by the media. One can only guess for what reason unless one may on occasion converse with someone who might have incriminating evidence against a specialist journalist in a particular field of interest. So I try not to be too led but it is difficult. Tyre reviews are becoming more and more complex with the number of fields being assessed but also in the way each field of a review might be weighted. We can be easily persuaded to accept a leading product unless we scrutinise the weighting scores and deliberately either negate them or award our own weighting for a particular section of any test. That is of course if we even accept the way tests are performed. They tend not to be performed in laboratory conditions and are subject to human and natural frailties after all.

I like the Michelin Cross Climate 2. I have used it for a number of years on a couple of vehicles but not yet on the T6 Caravelle 4Motion. On this I have tried Winter tyres, OME supplied tyres, that came with the vehicle from new and BFG AT KO2 tyres which have been on the vehicle for more than a year because the weather has been so bad, as you may know I live off road. What I intend doing is consider strongly to replace the OME tyres with Michelin CrossClimate 2 but at the same size as the BFG AT, that is 255/55R18. I will then just have 2 sets of tyres instead of 3 and loose a set of rims. I have ground clearance concerns here.
 
Yes comfort is important for ones self but also limiting shock to the chassis and assisting suspension in that sense. Limiting shock loading also assists handling and grip warding against sudden breakaway unless too soft. You are correct I feel that the more expensive premium brands tend to make over all, the best tyres generally though occasional exceptions will occur every now and then and in very specialised markets. Tyre testing reviews are important to read but often put their own slant and bias and we cannot always be absolutely certain that a they are not biased by commercial gain, self interest or by lack of effort being applied to accurate testing by ignorance. I also have an interest in Hi Fidelity Sound and read on line reviews and subscribe to HiFi News Magazine but I am concerned about impartiality generally. Over the years one comes come across gross marketing inaccuracies that are perpetuated and encouraged by the media. One can only guess for what reason unless one may on occasion converse with someone who might have incriminating evidence against a specialist journalist in a particular field of interest. So I try not to be too led but it is difficult. Tyre reviews are becoming more and more complex with the number of fields being assessed but also in the way each field of a review might be weighted. We can be easily persuaded to accept a leading product unless we scrutinise the weighting scores and deliberately either negate them or award our own weighting for a particular section of any test. That is of course if we even accept the way tests are performed. They tend not to be performed in laboratory conditions and are subject to human and natural frailties after all.

I like the Michelin Cross Climate 2. I have used it for a number of years on a couple of vehicles but not yet on the T6 Caravelle 4Motion. On this I have tried Winter tyres, OME supplied tyres, that came with the vehicle from new and BFG AT KO2 tyres which have been on the vehicle for more than a year because the weather has been so bad, as you may know I live off road. What I intend doing is consider strongly to replace the OME tyres with Michelin CrossClimate 2 but at the same size as the BFG AT, that is 255/55R18. I will then just have 2 sets of tyres instead of 3 and loose a set of rims. I have ground clearance concerns here.
Yes, seems there are so many ‘review’ sites that are created for marketing. I read about some of the tech websites actually being owned (and therefore solely funded) by companies producing hardware or software. There is no mention of it on the sites and they are huge names.

As for tyre reviews I do like the style of the TyreReviews site and his YouTube channel. He’ll fully admit which bits are subjective and who has leant him the test circuit. On the website you also see customer reviews and, more importantly, can weight scoring criteria to suit your preferences. And while things like emergency stop distances will depend on exact time of when the brake pedal is pressed generally there are still enough differences that the overall rating stands (always shocks me to see cheap tyres adding two, three or even four car lengths!).
 
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