Electric Cars - Home Powering.

[RedUn]

Don’t know if anyone saw the recent Guy Martin tv program about EV’s where he drove to John O’ Groats.
Half the charging stations he tried weren’t working and the costs of recharging were £204 whereas if he’d done the trip in a diesel vehicle it would have cost £140 in fuel.
Think I’ll be holding onto my dirty diesel for as long as I possibly can.

Watched this the other day, there's a few points for me that were right for me and few that weren't.

Before I go on, we have a tesla and we often drive hundreds of miles in a day no problem at very little cost.

So the whinge...

The other charging networks are mostly crap and expensive he's absolutely right about that, I've seen the same 69p per KW chargers too. Only this week the VW CEO has been complaining about the standard of the networks in Europe and the prices...

Secondly I was upset that he didn't recommend EVs yet. For 95% of people (or something) they are more than fine with the distances people drive. For the others who drive further, just buy a Tesla...it works and it's awesome.

It'd do the same 550 miles or whatever it was with 1 charge no problem at all.

Edit to add we charge at 5p per KW at home overnight and on the road we use the free superchargers... No complaints here, car pays for itself all day long.

 

[Loz]

Domestically, EV's are fine even if you can't charge at home, my Bruv has an EV and for ages, he didn't charge at home, he charged at work and considered his commute was from work to home and back to work.
The average office commute is well within the range of most EV's these days and if you have a special occasion or a holiday where range might be an issue, you can always hire something else.
Working from home these days, and with no driveway, we just need more chargers on the street.

I want a Rivian

Tesla rival Rivian in talks with UK government to set up factory in Bristol

Electric vehicle manufacturer, Rivian, a US-based Amazon-backed rival to Tesla, is in talks to set up a factory in Bristol, with a potential £1 billion investment.

www.driving.co.uk

Bring it on!

 

[RedUn]

Domestically, EV's are fine even if you can't charge at home, my Bruv has an EV and for ages, he didn't charge at home, he charged at work and considered his commute was from work to home and back to work.
The average office commute is well within the range of most EV's these days and if you have a special occasion or a holiday where range might be an issue, you can always hire something else.
Working from home these days, and with no driveway, we just need more chargers on the street.

I want a Rivian

Tesla rival Rivian in talks with UK government to set up factory in Bristol

Electric vehicle manufacturer, Rivian, a US-based Amazon-backed rival to Tesla, is in talks to set up a factory in Bristol, with a potential £1 billion investment.

www.driving.co.uk

Bring it on!

That looks cool! Tesla have said they are making a van too... If they do and its a decent size the T6 will be going!

 

[Deaky]

840 miles doing 50mpg in our 1.2 petrol Polo, fuel at £1.30 per litre would cost £100. Now can you honestly say you get 280miles out of a full charge on the motorway? Are we comparing like with like cars? If we were to go in the 2.0 diesel Tig, we'd be looking at £110 for the same trip, or £150 in the van.

I'm sure if I was driving an EV comparable to a 1.2 polo then it would cost me far less to do the journey but I'm not

 

[Deaky]

What we're all missing here is the impact on the environment.... that's got to be a good thing. For me, that, zero VED and 1% BIK tax it's a no brainer. 99% of our car use is commuting and visiting family for that the range is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Deaky]

What we're all missing here is the impact on the environment.... that's got to be a good thing. For me, that, zero VED and 1% BIK tax it's a no brainer. 99% of our car use is commuting and visiting family for that the range is perfectly acceptable.

Plus I can smoke M3's

 

[True Romance]

Honestly can't see how you've managed this. Are you sure it wasn't just because there was a pandemic and you didn't do as many miles? Our Leaf costs very little to run. e.g. a "full tank" i.e. 20kwh (not running the battery down very low) gets about 80-90 miles. At about 15p per kwh that's £3 or so. So about 3.75p per mile. A petrol car would need to be doing about 150mpg to be cheaper to run.

Same mileage same route and our electricity bill is around £50 per month cheaper since the leaf went (30kw). Currently put in about £40 of fuel per month.

 

[Pauly]

Plus I can smoke M3's

In what ?

 

[RedUn]

Same mileage same route and our electricity bill is around £50 per month cheaper since the leaf went (30kw). Currently put in about £40 of fuel per month.

Where you on an EV tariff?

 

[Loopdreams]

Same mileage same route and our electricity bill is around £50 per month cheaper since the leaf went (30kw). Currently put in about £40 of fuel per month.

There's something very wrong there then or something else has changed. Here's our usage for July, mostly just my wife using it for going to work and back (also need to update the cost per kWh in the app slightly.

 

[DXX]

Dunno Deaky, that’s the figures they gave on the tv program, it looked to me as if he was using charging stations in motorway service areas. Maybe it’s the same as with everything else at an MSA, twice the price.

Potential sideline for people living close to motorways and offices, renting out charging stations on private addresses.
Mmmm, how do you create an app’?

 

[RedUn]

Potential sideline for people living close to motorways and offices, renting out charging stations on private addresses.
Mmmm, how do you create an app’?

It's already been done! Plugshare!

 

[Deaky]

In what ?

Jaguar iPace

 

[dubber36]

I'm a bit late back to the conversation as I've just driven 300 miles, with a 10 minute stop for a Starbucks drive through and still with 200 miles of range left.

Nice car Rich. I saw one recently at full chat and they don't hang about. You never did say what your actual range on a 'proper' journey was.

 

[In a state]

My wife has a model 3 and we mostly charge at home, Octopus Go tariff and EO charger fitted in my garage. Doing about 14k a year and charging at home costs around £27 a month, with longer trips we use a combination of Tesla superchargers ~150kw, which are about £11 a full charge and the 50kw charge your car (Scotland) which are still mostly free... there are 3 free 50kw chargers with 5 miles of my house, which I never use!

I find the key to day-to-day driving is the home charger and longer trips just plan ahead your stops, the model 3 does that for you with superchargers but we use zap map for the non-Tesla chargers around the country.

The good news is that grid serve has taken over the electric highway chargers which were shite...should see an improvement in their performance over the coming months for longer trips.

 

[Deaky]

I'm a bit late back to the conversation as I've just driven 300 miles, with a 10 minute stop for a Starbucks drive through and still with 200 miles of range left.

Nice car Rich. I saw one recently at full chat and they don't hang about. You never did say what your actual range on a 'proper' journey was.

In the real world, with the aircon on and commuting/town driving it gives my range as 250 miles. I guess this is based on a rolling average of what you have done in the past. I can see a readout of the current kw consumption while driving. A bit like an instant mpg

 

[Stay Frosty]

Can't help thinking the Guy Martin programme wasn't a lot better than the Harry's Garage video on YouTube where the only information they present is little more than down tempo heresay.
We didn't see Guy booting that Ioniq 5 down the road but the mileage he got was a lot different to the various Hyundai fan boy road Tests on YouTube.
As an older driver I see the threat of car free cities and autonomous transport as far more of an infringement on my right to drive poorly and clog up the high street than the imposition of a car powered by batteries... I'm not greedy, I'll take a secondhand Peugeot e208 gt line thank you, in blue.

 

[Mike Dean]

Had a funny feeling starting this thread might lead to various conversations about EV.
Thanks to those that have commented regarding my question.

Looking into more detail i think Octopus Go tariff and EO charge might be the one for me.

 

[Carl1974]

Until the government give huge reductions on ev car prices I’m a no thank you. I’m not paying £25k for an electric corsa, I’d rather get a 2nd hand s4.

 

[Saint Paul]

Buy a brand new diesel van week before they ban new sales and that will see me out !!