EV Charger install

[DXX]

I worked for a very large multinational company which offloaded a whole division unimaginatively called Measurement & Systems in the early 2000’s. The future of that division relied on smart electricity meters being installed on all properties. It required governments to legislate, could they make a decision, no chance.
The same company also shut down a carbon sequestration project as no government was interested at the time, yet just this year they are asking for private investment. That won’t happen because it‘s big $ and politicians change their minds as fast as the weather changes.

 

[Mike Dean]

Smart meters don’t work for my neighbour and we’re not having them either.

As for splitting tails etc. that’s not easy, and in some cases impractical or impossible

Agreed and they wont be able to implement that.

 

[The Bear78]

How long before the Smart meters are used to calculate some kind of "fuel" tax on the electricity used for charging I wonder.

 

[Murdoch]

How long before the Smart meters are used to calculate some kind of "fuel" tax on the electricity used for charging I wonder.

replacing taxes raised previously on petrol and diesel isn’t a how, it’s when its done

 

[JOG]

How long before the Smart meters are used to calculate some kind of "fuel" tax on the electricity used for charging I wonder.

Not long!

Consider the “black box” insurance offer. Telemetry identifies that user has done 34 in a 30 zone….a week later a wee letter lands on the doormat from insurance company - increased premium to accommodate increased risk, blah blah blah, oh and £35 admin fee!

EV charging…Surge pricing models with a captive customer base! “Oh, but smart meters make it easier to change suppliers and keeps the market competitive!” Hmmm….exit fees, onboarding assessment fees, loss of “loyalty” bonuses…,,

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!

 

[PWE]

I've skim read so bare with me, but would get a local Sparky in to assess the service head and see what earthing arrangements and what the supply is like (looped or not).
If he's any good he should be able to offer solutions, assuming your not bothered about the green energy contribution get him to run the cable and install it for you.

As i think has been said previously, depending if its a BS88 or 1361 will depend if he can swap out for an 80amp fuse which is the easiest solution.

 

[DXX]

With the number of chargers available at the moment the operators could auction charging slots to the highest bidder,
Hopefully taxes and charges will be based on consumption, that is the only way to encourage energy conservation.

 

[Tourershine]

With the number of chargers available at the moment the operators could auction charging slots to the highest bidder.

On a very similar line of thought. I had a very Frank conversation with a contractor I'd finally got round to look at some works. I asked him why it's such a nightmare to get plumbers, sparks, chippies, builders etc.
His response was simple. He said most guys are over quoting for jobs by upto 50% and then cherry picking those daft enough to spend the money. As I know from my own industry, there seems to be a glut of people with a bucket load of spare cash after the pandemic and most trades are just taking full advantage of those desperate to spend money.

 

[DaveD]

On a very similar line of thought. I had a very Frank conversation with a contractor I'd finally got round to look at some works. I asked him why it's such a nightmare to get plumbers, sparks, chippies, builders etc.
His response was simple. He said most guys are over quoting for jobs by upto 50% and then cherry picking those daft enough to spend the money. As I know from my own industry, there seems to be a glut of people with a bucket load of spare cash after the pandemic and most trades are just taking full advantage of those desperate to spend money.

I've heard the same from various friends in the building trade, there's a lot of work out there and people willing to pay top rates for it, leaving tradesmen able to cherry pick the most profitable jobs.

 

[JOG]

I've heard the same from various friends in the building trade, there's a lot of work out there and people willing to pay top rates for it, leaving tradesmen able to cherry pick the most profitable jobs.

Can only mean that there are opportunities for others

 

[Ali-G]

 

[True Romance]

Oh dear the future of EV charging at home doesn't sound very promising. Still I'll continue to enjoy my 350 mpg equivalent EV car from our cheap night rate electric while I can.

 

[Tourershine]

Oh dear the future of EV charging at home doesn't sound very promising. Still I'll continue to enjoy my 350 mpg equivalent EV car from our cheap night rate electric while I can.

It turned out to be a pretty simple fix. The Spark applied to the grid for a bigger fuse, demonstrating the load needed, including the rest of the house, and they approved it.
Sparks are coming back for 2nd fix in a couple of weeks and they will install the Zappi charger.

 

[Skyliner33]

I have a connected but slightly different question.
My brother has ordered an EV (Tesla). Will he be able to give his car a boost from a normal 13A mains socket when he comes to visit, or will I have to get something installed?
Who do I need to contact, or what do I need to do to check?

Thanks.

 

[The Bear78]

Most if not all EV's have the ability (with the correct cable/adaptor) to charge via a normal household 13amp plug but the times will be very slow. Any of the more powerful vehicles will need a decent period to add a significant amount.

For reference (after a quick Google) the Model S 90D, via 13 amp plug will add a paltry 7 miles per hour of charging.

 

[Skyliner33]

Most if not all EV's have the ability (with the correct cable/adaptor) to charge via a normal household 13amp plug but the times will be very slow. Any of the more powerful vehicles will need a decent period to add a significant amount.

For reference (after a quick Google) the Model S 90D, via 13 amp plug will add a paltry 7 miles per hour of charging.

Thanks.

 

[Sackmycook]

Just completed 500 miles in the BMW i3s, not paid a penny to charge yet as have used free chargers at shopping centres etc near York.
Loving the EV life..

Have considered a house charger but quotes around £900 upwards are putting us off

 

[Scarlet7]

Just completed 500 miles in the BMW i3s, not paid a penny to charge yet as have used free chargers at shopping centres etc near York.
Loving the EV life..

Have considered a house charger but quotes around £900 upwards are putting us off

There are many considerations to take into account when installing an EV charger and it is never as simple as these companies make out when they say we can fit it for £500 as long as it is a standard installation. If your fuseboard is on the wall backing to where the charger would go the great it would be simple. Many different chargers to choose from depending what/how you want to use it ie mobile phone apps and all that marlarky. it does make me chuckle that people are happy to spend £30000+ on an EV but dont want to spend the £800 - £1200 cost of installing a charger.

 

[Sackmycook]

Glad I make you chuckle

 

[Ambrose]

I am in the market to have an EV charger installed in our home, any recommendations on electricians who could do that in south Manchester area? TIA