Fire Extinguishers

Any thoughts on something like this Here?
We have that one.

But haven't used it in anger yet.




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We have a similar debate/discussion around fire extinguishers in the small boating world. Having seen both boats & vans go up in flames, I think we’re deluding ourselves if we think we can realistically fight a fire in an enclosed space packed with combustible materials/fuels/plastics etc. If our van catches fire, I’m out of there asap & ringing the insurance company. Even if I did manage to put out the fire, would I want the van back that’s been BBQ’d? All that said, we do carry 2 fire extinguishers in the van, one at the side of the bed & one behind the drivers seat. Both are 1kg powder. I can only see them being used in the event of an external fire or a 3rd party fire. If there’s a fire inside the van, it can take its chances.
If you do carry an extinguisher, don’t just stick it in a cupboard/door pocket and forget about it. Think how & when you would use it in anger & make a plan.
All just my opinion & my take on things, I’m not saying I’m right or wrong.
 
We have a similar debate/discussion around fire extinguishers in the small boating world. Having seen both boats & vans go up in flames, I think we’re deluding ourselves if we think we can realistically fight a fire in an enclosed space packed with combustible materials/fuels/plastics etc. If our van catches fire, I’m out of there asap & ringing the insurance company. Even if I did manage to put out the fire, would I want the van back that’s been BBQ’d? All that said, we do carry 2 fire extinguishers in the van, one at the side of the bed & one behind the drivers seat. Both are 1kg powder. I can only see them being used in the event of an external fire or a 3rd party fire. If there’s a fire inside the van, it can take its chances.
If you do carry an extinguisher, don’t just stick it in a cupboard/door pocket and forget about it. Think how & when you would use it in anger & make a plan.
All just my opinion & my take on things, I’m not saying I’m right or wrong.
The only reason I have one is because legally I have to as I hire the van out. Otherwise, I'm with you
 
We have a similar debate/discussion around fire extinguishers in the small boating world. Having seen both boats & vans go up in flames, I think we’re deluding ourselves if we think we can realistically fight a fire in an enclosed space packed with combustible materials/fuels/plastics etc. If our van catches fire, I’m out of there asap & ringing the insurance company. Even if I did manage to put out the fire, would I want the van back that’s been BBQ’d? All that said, we do carry 2 fire extinguishers in the van, one at the side of the bed & one behind the drivers seat. Both are 1kg powder. I can only see them being used in the event of an external fire or a 3rd party fire. If there’s a fire inside the van, it can take its chances.
If you do carry an extinguisher, don’t just stick it in a cupboard/door pocket and forget about it. Think how & when you would use it in anger & make a plan.
All just my opinion & my take on things, I’m not saying I’m right or wrong.

Very true, I’m trained as a marine firefighter and it’s incredible how fast a fire can take hold. I’m afraid those mini extinguishers in reality it’s just for peace of mind.
Two inhalations of toxic smoke and you may not be conscious enough to use it. What you see in the movies with people running into burning buildings unprotected to rescue people is complete bollox.
If you discharge a powder extinguisher in a van you might wish you’d let it burn, it’s a bit worse than Shake and Vac.
Smoke alarms in vans are essential.
 
The only reason I have one is because legally I have to as I hire the van out. Otherwise, I'm with you
Do the regs that state you have to provide an extinguisher, also give guidance as to type/size/location?
 
Do the regs that state you have to provide an extinguisher, also give guidance as to type/size/location?
I dont believe so unless I missed that part. I do make sure I point out its location on every hire though
 
The Aldi ones are back if anyone wants one.

 
While typically we would be thinking of a cooking fire, but also consider battery fires now, as they seem to be a lot more common now, and vans with leisure batteries ........... Just my 5p worth.
 
While typically we would be thinking of a cooking fire, but also consider battery fires now, as they seem to be a lot more common now, and vans with leisure batteries ........... Just my 5p worth.
LiFePO4 battery chemistry is a very stable, but if you do get thermal runaway, good luck putting the fire out with a handheld extinguisher. :thumbsdown:
 
LiFePO4 battery chemistry is a very stable, but if you do get thermal runaway, good luck putting the fire out with a handheld extinguisher. :thumbsdown:
Because of the chemistry involved they make their own oxygen, and will even burn underwater. He'd have more chance of Rusell Brand having a bath and a haircut than he would of extinguishing that.

I'd stand back and salute the van as it gave itself a viking funeral, and would then reach for the nw van catalogue.
 
Because of the chemistry involved they make their own oxygen, and will even burn underwater. He'd have more chance of Rusell Brand having a bath and a haircut than he would of extinguishing that.

I'd stand back and salute the van as it gave itself a viking funeral, and would then reach for the nw van catalogue.
you saying that makes me wonder about insurance and the camper. .

ie declaring modifications - yes i have a 230ah lithium leisure battery, DIY installed, with tin foil fuses.

though i did see a lithium specific extinguisher the other day. . .


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Because of the chemistry involved they make their own oxygen, and will even burn underwater. He'd have more chance of Rusell Brand having a bath and a haircut than he would of extinguishing that.

I'd stand back and salute the van as it gave itself a viking funeral, and would then reach for the nw van catalogue.
Doesn’t bear thinking about - imagine having to replace your van with one of those new Transitporters. :eek:
 
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