Folding Mirrors On Comfort Close (again)

This base scan from yesterday of any help for now? . . . or you need the full block scan etc.

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Sunday,05,January,2020,12:28:26:48354
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZJH0*****   License Plate: *****
Mileage: 30630km-19032mi   Repair Order: 1/1/2020


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 13 15 17 19 25 55 5F 61 0B

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 322170891
   Coding: A0AC303A0A61343193284F507EEB9F74C294728F60CD7970330400220860
   Shop #: WSC 02739 022 206085
   VCID: 2B1606624AB9D21722-807E
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 151117 04  47  0106
   Coding: 0228EE
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 R    HW: 7E0 959 801 R  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  005 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU002111773061853
   Coding: 1400B1
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 Q    HW: 7E0 959 802 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU013111773170147
   Coding: 0400A1
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103
   Serial number: 29180001146590038251
   Coding: B4FFFF


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add map & block map added
 

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Dellmassive said:
or you need the full block scan etc.
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Yes please - both adaptation maps and blockmaps! There certainly are configuration settings which hopefully help crack the mystery... well, it's our last hope with these tools anyway.
 
Dellmassive said:
added above
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Excellent. Massive thanks.

In the adaptations there are quite a few differences between yours and @phazer 's (the extracted data PM'd for further trials) so there is definitely still hope. Interestingly adaptations between MY18 without folding mirrors and yours MY18 are the same (the undocumented ones).

However there are differences between identical MY16 and MY18 vans which makes me wonder how the above would be in a MY17 - perhaps @goldeneye243 (per ---> Can My Mirrors Fold With Vcds? ) could enlighten us with the same data packages?

Interestingly your coding doesn't have "comfort function active" unlike in the picture below (your byte_03="3A" thus bits 6 and 7 are "0").
upload_2020-1-6_11-5-48-png.57645

Picture copied from ---> How To Program Folding Mirrors - Pictogram

PS.
Dellmassive said:
Mileage: 30630km
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Interesting bit here - mine has 30600km on the clock :D thus delta less than 0.1%.
 
what about this from my old T5.1 . . . (with folding mirrors from factory/RLS/DWA/LIN Horn/ (MFSW-Retrofit))


Code: 
Tuesday,08,September,2015,13:11:15:43378
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZBH0****   License Plate: MY2011
Mileage: 108080km-67157mi   Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 7H (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 22 25 37 55 56 77 0B
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZBH0****   Mileage: 108080km-67157miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010


*************

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B    HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0571 046130495
   Coding: A8A030BA0E61243193284EF17EAB8F55D29066F060847841300000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00124 012 00001
   VCID: 2D51C5E874B84C56C6-8078
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 071210 05  54  0403
   Coding: 07302E
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C    HW: 7E0 959 801 C  Labels: 7E0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3311
   Coding: 050000
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C    HW: 7E0 959 802 C  Labels: 7E0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3311
   Coding: 040000
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H05 0010
   Coding: 830000
No fault code found.

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It seems that we cannot really confirm what is the effect on T6 - it is unticked from factory on all my scans but windows comfort closing works on all of them.

On the VCDS Screenshot not ticked means not active - ticking turns the text turns to show "the text is literally valid".

However, German VCDS states for this bit "Comfort function via LIN databus active" so perhaps no implemented on T6.

Anyways, I have been collecting possible decodes from different sources (@andys post + the it's original, OBDeleven Android, German and English VCDS, T6Forum, Ross-Tech Forum, etc) to have them parallel to see if any of them makes more sense than the others. The German VCDS has a lot more "decodes" opened up but not all correct. Anyways, I'll polish the sheet a bit further to make it hopefully more readable before posting so everyone can make their own conclusions what is the truth.
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On your T5.1 the byte 03 = "BA" thus 1011 1010" = Comfort function active

Doh... how could we get an adpmap from that :cry:

Did the mirrors fold from remote on the T5.1?

It had Xenon headlights??
 
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A few more - do you still have the factory BCM coding string of the current MY18 T6
upload_2020-1-6_16-49-17.png

Do the barn doors lock when you set off (>5km/h)? There is 09:01:03 (AC=1010 1100) ticked in your coding (as mine too) and my tailgate locks up.

Dellmassive said:
so not sure what 09:03:06/07 do?
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German VCDS and T6Forum VCDS codes list suggests 09:03:06 blocks mirror folding above 40 km/h.
 
mmi said:
Do the barn doors lock when you set off (>5km/h)? There is 09:01:03 (AC=1010 1100) ticked in your coding (as mine too) and my tailgate locks up.
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- not that I've noticed.?


mmi said:
do you still have the factory BCM coding string of the current MY18 T6
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i think this is the earliest scan (T6 PV MY18):
Code: 
Friday,14,September,2018,09:13:13:43378
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.1.5 (x64)
Data version: 20180518 DS287.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZJH09****   License Plate: MY18
Mileage: 7290km-4529mi   Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 13 15 17 19 25 55 5F 61
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZJH09****   Mileage: 7290km-4529miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 322170891
   Coding: A0A4303A0A61343193284F507EEB9F74C294728F60CD7960330400220860
   Shop #: WSC 02739 022 2060854
   VCID: 2B55CBF04AAC421CA1-807E
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 151117 04  47  0106
   Coding: 0228EE
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 R    HW: 7E0 959 801 R  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  005 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU002111773061853
   Coding: 1400B1
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 Q    HW: 7E0 959 802 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU013111773170147
   Coding: 0400A1
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103
   Serial number: 39170002674220107447
   Coding: B4FFFF
 
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Here is mine, note my mirrors DONT fold on the key.
Code: 
Monday,06,January,2020,14:40:51:26777
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(VMWare)
VCDS Version 19.6.2.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 13 15 17 18 19 20 22 25 55 5F 61 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZHH0xxxxx   Mileage: 32990km-20499miles

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B    HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744 
   Revision: B9081001    Serial number: 0982 258161861
   Coding: B8AC39B86A61341293284F207E8B9F50C094739960CD79F03204003F0860
   Shop #: WSC 02737 022 12345
   VCID: 2A0CF710DCF9A0C7B73-807F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 270816 04  42  0106 
   Coding: 0228DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 Q    HW: 7E0 959 801 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0653 
   Serial number: KU0KU007091662517676
   Coding: 1400B1

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 Q    HW: 7E0 959 802 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0653 
   Serial number: KU0KU030081662435787
   Coding: 0400A1

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103 
   Serial number: 29160001681590116347
   Coding: B4FFFF

No fault code found.
 

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I've had a play with Carista between VCDS scans . . . .

so some coding changes would have possibly been made then/them...

from factory i think the carista changes I've made were:

Large MPH on DIS,
wipers - 5th tear wipe,
Lights OFF when handbreak ON (for camping)
MMI service mode
lane change flash count to 5
 
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dell T5.1 Coding: A0AC303A0A61343193284F507EEB9F74C294728F60CD7960330400220860
dell T6... Coding: A0A4303A0A61343193284F507EEB9F74C294728F60CD7960330400220860
Loz T6... Coding: B8AC39B86A61341293284F207E8B9F50C094739960CD79F03204003F0860
Fns T6... Coding: B8F479BA0A61349393284F746CEB9EFC8FA0710F60CC6960320400230800
 
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You guys might be past this part but here is my VCDS data. I can confirm that mirror folding works on a long button press with this set up.
MY16
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 L HW: 7E0 959 801 L Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8654
Serial number: KU0KU007011660074769
Coding: 1400B3

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 L HW: 7E0 959 802 L Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8654
Serial number: KU0KU008011660083248
Coding: 0400A3

Central Electric coding is:
Coding: B8F479BA0A61349393284F746CEB9EFC8FA0710F60CC6960320400230800
 
Farnorthsurfer said:
You guys might be past this part but here is my VCDS data. I can confirm that mirror folding works on a long button press with this set up.
MY16
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 L HW: 7E0 959 801 L Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8654
Serial number: KU0KU007011660074769
Coding: 1400B3

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 L HW: 7E0 959 802 L Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8654
Serial number: KU0KU008011660083248
Coding: 0400A3

Central Electric coding is:
Coding: B8F479BA0A61349393284F746CEB9EFC8FA0710F60CC6960320400230800
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Excellent - the L-modules. Thanks.
Would be perfect if we could get also the adaptation map and blockmap of the BCM as ---> Folding Mirrors On Comfort Close (again)
 
As requested @mmi
Hopefully they attach OK.
Its a 2016 Kombi LWB 180 4Motion with a few extras like heated seats and stuff.
Hope it helps, the Forum has been really useful to me so I don't mind giving back a bit.
Drivers RH, door open and ignition on.
 

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Farnorthsurfer said:
As requested @mmi
Hopefully they attach OK.
Its a 2016 Kombi LWB 180 4Motion with a few extras like heated seats and stuff.
Hope it helps, the Forum has been really useful to me so I don't mind giving back a bit.
Drivers RH, door open and ignition on.
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Excellent. Thanks.
Somewhat unexpected adaptations, so could you please post also the software identifiers of the BCM itself as below just in case...
upload_2020-1-6_20-37-20.png
 
Sure;
Disclaimer; this is from a few months ago but I haven't changed anything since.
Also I posted a thread a while ago about my VCDS nightmare. It should all have been restored to normal but no warranty.
My mirrors do fold though :). The excellent guide posted by @Loz and others worked for me

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736
Revision: B9080001 Serial number: 0771 022160196
Coding: B8F479BA0A61349393284F746CEB9EFC8FA0710F60CC6960320400230800
Shop #: WSC 02737 022 115980
VCID: 6889B8D8E2716397629-803C
 
Thanks all very much - at least I have learned a lot!

In a nutshell - just pure T6 adaptation differences (apologies @phazer at the moment, full package soon on the way...) as for T5.1 there were a few more bits. Anyways, I'll post full sheet in a few minutes...

Still interested of a sample of MY17.

So the working submodules as @Dellmassive and @Farnorthsurfer are R+Q and L+L... on the left just for comparison between model years two vans with no folding mirrors.

upload_2020-1-6_20-41-46.png
 
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