Fridges & Cold Beer -- How I Done It --
For Most Beer Lovers, Cold Beer is a Must. (especially Larger)
and for Her-Indoors a cold wine or G&T will always help smooth the situation . . . . maybe even Cold POP for the kids (My nanas term)
Then there is the necessities of camping and Fridges like Milk, Bacon, Sausages, Cheese & Salad(for the Burger).
Sure you could live on tins of Spam and tinned Tuna, but who wants to do that?
So this Thread is about just that, Fridges and cooling.
I've done loads of content that is spread about over various threads, so i though i was time to pull it all together in one place . . . .
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My journey with cooling started many years ago when we went to motor racing weekenders, a 2-3day event, off grid, in a tent.
It started as we all did with a coolbox with Ice.
this works ok for the first day or so, but as you drink and replace the beers the ice melts faster and turns into a box full of warm beers and water . . .
but dont get me wrong . . . this is by far the cheapest and easiest way of cooling . . . . it just means that someone will have to go to the shops a couple of time for bags of fresh ice.
Since those days i have upgraded to 12v/240v cooler boxes, 3way fridges and now these days compressor fridges . . .
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lets look at some options . . .
First off we have the trusty cooler bag and ice pack . .
I've used this "Titan" brand (from Costco) and they are awesome, and will easily last a day+ when full of ice or ice packs.
> Titan Deep Freeze 40 Can Collapsible Cooler - Blue: Amazon.co.uk: Clothing
loose or ice packs are the way to go . . .
> https://amzn.to/3eNHRjd
The benefit of the cooler bag is that it can fold away when not in use . . . . which is nice.
Next up is the trusty cooler box. . . .
with thicker & denser walls and lid you get better performance, the ice will last longer.
They are also more durable for being thrown around in the van and can be stronger when being carried about full of beer. =]
i had this one in the passed, it can be used as a seat and table alike.
> Coleman Cool Box 30QT Performance Cooler, 28 Litres capacity, Large High Performance Cooler Box, Ice Box for Drinks: Amazon.co.uk
This is our Beer Box at Silverstone F1 2015, the Beer Tent was Pricey. So we took out own beer. Problem was the long walk to the track . . . . . . . . .
so we got one of these . . . makes the job much easier.
and some bungy straps to stop it falling off.
> Yaheetech Heavy Duty Aluminium 80kg Folding Foldable Hand Sack Truck Barrow Cart Trolley Industrial Warehouse Hand Truck, Sack Truck: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
Woodlands Camp @ Silverstone which is awesome BTW ( as is the F1 show . . . . )
.
So whats next . . . . ?
well at some point you will give up running to the shops for more ice and start looking at 12v cooler boxes . . .
This is where things start to get tricky as you need to power them . . . .
Most of these boxes are classed as TE or Thermo-Electric and run on 12v dc with a car 12v plug on them.
Like this one, they are rated in Box size ie 25L and cooling efficiency ie: " Cooling up to 17 degree Celsius below ambient temperature "
> Mobicool U26 DC Thermoelectric Cool Box, 25 Litre: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
The TE part is the tech inside the box, its effectively a "peltier cooling element", it works by using 12v dc to power the element,
one side gets hot, the other side gets cold. . . . there are two fans, one for the hot side and one for the cold side.
> Thermoelectric cooling - Wikipedia
because of this they are very power hungry and in efficient . . as only half of the used power is for cooling the rest is given off in heat and fan power . . .
To help the manufactures add in ECO modes and the like . . . . but ultimately its a power trade -off.
The next upgrade was to add 12v/240v to the mix . . . .
here is our current cool boxes . . . they are 12/240
Now one thing i realised long ago was they they were MORE EFFICIENT when running on 240v AC power (via a 12v mains inverter) . . .
which can been seen here:
But what i didn't know was why . . . . . until a few week ago ..... !
look at the spec plate inside the cool box . . .
it clearly states that:
on 12v dc its 39.6W
and
on 240vac its 52W max & 14W eco
that explains the results i was getting . . . plus its a lot quieter =]
> BESTEK 200W Power Inverter DC 12V to AC 230V 240V Dual Socket Car Voltage Converter Transformer with 4 USB Car Charger: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
this was the (MSW) inverter i was using back then . . . .
and this the one we use now:
weve moved over to pure sine wave now (PSW)
> BESTEK 300W Pure Sine Wave Power Inverter DC 12V to AC 230V 240V with 4.8A Dual Smart USB Ports Car Adapter: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
with one of these . .
> [UL Listed] YCIND Battery Clamp Click-On to Female Cigarette Lighter Socket Boost Cable Heavy-Duty 30A Fuse 12V/24V 12AWG Cord 3Ft: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
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or one of these . .
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ALWAYS REMEMBER TO FUSE ANYTHING CONNECTED TO A BATTERY !!!!!!
Right ok . . . so what about the battery . . . . ?
How long will the battery last . . . . ?
well for us we started by connecting it the car battery . . . . . and soon found out that we needed a jump start as it run the car battery flat . . . . =[
most cooler boxes have a low volt cut off that is supposed to stop the battery going flat . . . . . but we found that wasnt good enough and ended up with flat battery all weekend and the car running for about 3hrs to try and charge it up.
For the next outing we decided to get a leisure battery . . . . .
first up was a good old SLA heady duty leisure battery . . . . which was fine for the first season . . .
but quickly swapped out for a AGM duty to the very poor performance of standatd SLA batteries . . .
so next up was . . . . . .
12v AGM Leisure battery from GoOutdoors, like this one . .
> Platinum AGM Plus Leisure Battery 12V 100Ah AGMLB6110L: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
and a battery box for it to live and be transported in . . .
> Pennine Caravan Black Plastic 110amp Leisure Battery Box with straps and divider: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
For Most Beer Lovers, Cold Beer is a Must. (especially Larger)
and for Her-Indoors a cold wine or G&T will always help smooth the situation . . . . maybe even Cold POP for the kids (My nanas term)
Then there is the necessities of camping and Fridges like Milk, Bacon, Sausages, Cheese & Salad(for the Burger).
Sure you could live on tins of Spam and tinned Tuna, but who wants to do that?
So this Thread is about just that, Fridges and cooling.
I've done loads of content that is spread about over various threads, so i though i was time to pull it all together in one place . . . .
*************************************
My journey with cooling started many years ago when we went to motor racing weekenders, a 2-3day event, off grid, in a tent.
It started as we all did with a coolbox with Ice.
this works ok for the first day or so, but as you drink and replace the beers the ice melts faster and turns into a box full of warm beers and water . . .
but dont get me wrong . . . this is by far the cheapest and easiest way of cooling . . . . it just means that someone will have to go to the shops a couple of time for bags of fresh ice.
Since those days i have upgraded to 12v/240v cooler boxes, 3way fridges and now these days compressor fridges . . .
***************************************
lets look at some options . . .
First off we have the trusty cooler bag and ice pack . .
I've used this "Titan" brand (from Costco) and they are awesome, and will easily last a day+ when full of ice or ice packs.
> Titan Deep Freeze 40 Can Collapsible Cooler - Blue: Amazon.co.uk: Clothing
loose or ice packs are the way to go . . .
> https://amzn.to/3eNHRjd
The benefit of the cooler bag is that it can fold away when not in use . . . . which is nice.
Next up is the trusty cooler box. . . .
with thicker & denser walls and lid you get better performance, the ice will last longer.
They are also more durable for being thrown around in the van and can be stronger when being carried about full of beer. =]
i had this one in the passed, it can be used as a seat and table alike.
> Coleman Cool Box 30QT Performance Cooler, 28 Litres capacity, Large High Performance Cooler Box, Ice Box for Drinks: Amazon.co.uk
This is our Beer Box at Silverstone F1 2015, the Beer Tent was Pricey. So we took out own beer. Problem was the long walk to the track . . . . . . . . .
so we got one of these . . . makes the job much easier.
and some bungy straps to stop it falling off.
> Yaheetech Heavy Duty Aluminium 80kg Folding Foldable Hand Sack Truck Barrow Cart Trolley Industrial Warehouse Hand Truck, Sack Truck: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
Woodlands Camp @ Silverstone which is awesome BTW ( as is the F1 show . . . . )
.
So whats next . . . . ?
well at some point you will give up running to the shops for more ice and start looking at 12v cooler boxes . . .
This is where things start to get tricky as you need to power them . . . .
Most of these boxes are classed as TE or Thermo-Electric and run on 12v dc with a car 12v plug on them.
Like this one, they are rated in Box size ie 25L and cooling efficiency ie: " Cooling up to 17 degree Celsius below ambient temperature "
> Mobicool U26 DC Thermoelectric Cool Box, 25 Litre: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
The TE part is the tech inside the box, its effectively a "peltier cooling element", it works by using 12v dc to power the element,
one side gets hot, the other side gets cold. . . . there are two fans, one for the hot side and one for the cold side.
> Thermoelectric cooling - Wikipedia
because of this they are very power hungry and in efficient . . as only half of the used power is for cooling the rest is given off in heat and fan power . . .
To help the manufactures add in ECO modes and the like . . . . but ultimately its a power trade -off.
The next upgrade was to add 12v/240v to the mix . . . .
here is our current cool boxes . . . they are 12/240
Now one thing i realised long ago was they they were MORE EFFICIENT when running on 240v AC power (via a 12v mains inverter) . . .
which can been seen here:
But what i didn't know was why . . . . . until a few week ago ..... !
look at the spec plate inside the cool box . . .
it clearly states that:
on 12v dc its 39.6W
and
on 240vac its 52W max & 14W eco
that explains the results i was getting . . . plus its a lot quieter =]
> BESTEK 200W Power Inverter DC 12V to AC 230V 240V Dual Socket Car Voltage Converter Transformer with 4 USB Car Charger: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
this was the (MSW) inverter i was using back then . . . .
and this the one we use now:
weve moved over to pure sine wave now (PSW)
> BESTEK 300W Pure Sine Wave Power Inverter DC 12V to AC 230V 240V with 4.8A Dual Smart USB Ports Car Adapter: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
with one of these . .
> [UL Listed] YCIND Battery Clamp Click-On to Female Cigarette Lighter Socket Boost Cable Heavy-Duty 30A Fuse 12V/24V 12AWG Cord 3Ft: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
+++
or one of these . .
+++
ALWAYS REMEMBER TO FUSE ANYTHING CONNECTED TO A BATTERY !!!!!!
Right ok . . . so what about the battery . . . . ?
How long will the battery last . . . . ?
well for us we started by connecting it the car battery . . . . . and soon found out that we needed a jump start as it run the car battery flat . . . . =[
most cooler boxes have a low volt cut off that is supposed to stop the battery going flat . . . . . but we found that wasnt good enough and ended up with flat battery all weekend and the car running for about 3hrs to try and charge it up.
For the next outing we decided to get a leisure battery . . . . .
first up was a good old SLA heady duty leisure battery . . . . which was fine for the first season . . .
but quickly swapped out for a AGM duty to the very poor performance of standatd SLA batteries . . .
so next up was . . . . . .
12v AGM Leisure battery from GoOutdoors, like this one . .
> Platinum AGM Plus Leisure Battery 12V 100Ah AGMLB6110L: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
and a battery box for it to live and be transported in . . .
> Pennine Caravan Black Plastic 110amp Leisure Battery Box with straps and divider: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike
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