how T6 compares to new Renault Traffic?

My T6 is Euro 6, no issues at all over 4 years period.
 
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The EGR valve stuck on my T6 at about 45k. It was replaced under warranty, so no cost, but would have been around a grand.
I was surprised, as we do a lot of distance driving and only use BP fuel.
They do seem to have a lot of issues with there adblue system, and I have heard the same about the early Transit Customs with adblue.
 
Not the same but I run it’s bigger brother the Movano/master for work, had it from new and now around 100k miles. It is without doubt the worst vehicle I have ever owned! It has only been driven by me and very well looked after.

Renault make it for Vauxhall and I broke my rule of not buying french vehicles! Never again!

The repairs have been ridiculous, had to have a new gearbox at 80k that cost me £2.5k! The 6sp box they use on vivaros/movanos/traffics etc are made of cheese, just google it.

Had to replace steering rack, various suspension parts, exhaust, 2 x ignition barrels, brake callipers, spare wheel carrier, sliding door runners, the door handles fall off in your hand on a regular basis. Air con failed and Vauxhall could never fix it. The list is endless, I could go on all day.

T6 all day long, it won’t be faultless but it has to be better! Residuals will be better too even being older.

Needless to say I now have a Crafter on order to replace it.
 
Almost all European road vehicle manufacturers use Bosch DENOXTRONIC system as a SCR so no difference at all.
No vehicle make is better or more reliable then other in that sense.

they maybe run all the same main components, sensors etc but software, application can be different?
 
I had an 09, then a 13 plate old shape Vivaro 2.0CDTi. Good vans, both started getting unreliable with age and had to go. I paid more for a year old 204 LWB DSG PV than a new Vivaro BiTDi 140 would have been. Mine is a van, not a camper, but it drives like a car, and so much better than the equivalent Vivaro.

I use a father and son subby, who both bought new Vivaros. The son rags his around, the dad drives his a lot more considerately. The Son's has never had a fault in 2.5 years, the dad's has had fuel system issues, gearbox, master cylinder (wtf?), and all the associated time off the road. I just don't think they have the quality right. What's with a master cylinder failing on a new modern vehicle!

The engine and box in the Vivaros are the same 1.6D as a Renault Clio, but obvs with different ancillaries/ECU etc. No wonder they have so many gearbox issues with a torquey motor pulling round 2 tonnes plus...

My 09 Vivaro 6 speed gearbox died as it became noisy due to bearing failure. The bearings overheat and fail. The bearings have a woven copper strap attached to act as a heat sink to a part of the casing. The strap fatigues, falls off and the bearing overheats. One of the very common failure mechanisms. Small bearing due to compact size of the box it appears, but clearly not really suitable for longevity.
 
I had an 09, then a 13 plate old shape Vivaro 2.0CDTi. Good vans, both started getting unreliable with age and had to go. I paid more for a year old 204 LWB DSG PV than a new Vivaro BiTDi 140 would have been. Mine is a van, not a camper, but it drives like a car, and so much better than the equivalent Vivaro.

I use a father and son subby, who both bought new Vivaros. The son rags his around, the dad drives his a lot more considerately. The Son's has never had a fault in 2.5 years, the dad's has had fuel system issues, gearbox, master cylinder (wtf?), and all the associated time off the road. I just don't think they have the quality right. What's with a master cylinder failing on a new modern vehicle!

The engine and box in the Vivaros are the same 1.6D as a Renault Clio, but obvs with different ancillaries/ECU etc. No wonder they have so many gearbox issues with a torquey motor pulling round 2 tonnes plus...

My 09 Vivaro 6 speed gearbox died as it became noisy due to bearing failure. The bearings overheat and fail. The bearings have a woven copper strap attached to act as a heat sink to a part of the casing. The strap fatigues, falls off and the bearing overheats. One of the very common failure mechanisms. Small bearing due to compact size of the box it appears, but clearly not really suitable for longevity.
I think the new Vivaro is now a Citroen following the takeover
 
just curious as I have just very good offers for both cars, never owned a French car though.
2016 T6 with almost no mileage almost same price as 2020 brand new renault after recent discounts...
Hence the dilemma.

I ran a 2006 Vivaro as the first van in my business, that I purchased it 2nd hand from Lex leasing. It had been well serviced and was a mint van, albeit the smallest of the power plants and the slightly more reliable 5 speed box. This thing did 300k with me, and not once did it break down or cost me any money, other than serviceable items. That is why I waited until the new shape Vivaro came out in 2015. The newer version was far more refined, 6 speed, much better spec, fantastic on fuel and a generally much more car like to drive than the previous version. However... reliability was appalling. It never broke down on me, but boy was it an inferior version of the previous commercial. The shocks all failed at 32k, which for me was 4 months old, but only covered under warranty for 30k. Every door handle came off at some point and the sliding door fell off it's runner in front of a customer, both common on the new shape. The clutch kept jamming to to the floor, which Vauxhall couldn't ever fix. The Stop/Start kept jamming the starter motor on at traffic lights, meaning you had to keep switching off the engine. The DAB radio never worked, also common. The design of the front end meant because it was so flat and brick like, it was covered in stone chips within the first few thousand miles, the screens were also prone to chipping, and the final straw for me was when the clutch finally gave up at 100k.

Compare that with my T6. 3 years of ownership and it's had 3 DPF flexi pipes (common problem, cheap part and easy fix) and I personally had a paint blistering issue that VW eventually fixed free of charge.
I disagree about residual values between the VW and the Vivaro. My Vivaro cost me half what the VW cost, and it lost half it's value in 2 years and 100k. The T6 has done exactly the same. Residual values are irrelevant to me because they are a work vehicle and earn me 100x what they loose in value, so even if mine was only worth half what I paid for it when I sell, that's just a nice bonus.
 
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