Nightmare Coding, Warning To All!

Interesting self justification for using fake/counterfeit products.
Don’t get me wrong, I have used “dodgy” gear in the past, but I knew it was wrong & didn’t try & justify it to either myself or others. Using fake goods carries inherent risks as the OP found out to his cost. It also stifles innovation from the creator of the original work as it robs them of funds for development. Then there’re the links to organised crime/money laundering/slave labour....
I don’t think we should be encouraging the use of dodgy kit here. The use of the original, kosher gear is dangerous enough in the wrong hands.
I’ll get me coat........

I was expecting a backlash as this subject is very contentious. I am not justifying my purchase but I am trying to open people minds to the advantages a company gets from having its products copied, rather than just assuming that everyone would have bought the same genuine product instead.
I did say why fakes are not as good although slave labour and money laundering is probably not an issue in this case. I would not buy a new VCDS so RT have not lost anything, so are no worse off. As I explained above they will gain publicity and credibility which helps them much more than me buying a cheaper competitors device.
The logical extension to your argument is that we should only get our vehicles looked at by the manufacturer's and their authorised dealers. Halfords is full of "fake" parts for us to fit ourselves "robbing" car makers of money.
Vcds is itself a kind of a copy of odis, aren't RT robbing odis's developers of money? What about vag-com? Infringing VWs trademark? VW were also going after VCP. I do think it is wrong that the clones are made to look like the originals but at least it is obvious they are clones due to the price difference, so are unlikely to get confused.
2 (possibly) personal examples where pirating can help gps companies, as it did for Microsoft with windows.
1 - after using hacked versions of Sygic gps on phones, the genuine version was bought with a lifetime licence.
2 - being able to update Garmin gps maps when needed without paying for them, meant Garmin sold at least 5 units and soon another one (that will have free lifetime map updates) instead of others such as tomtoms. Both companies in the end made money that otherwise would have gone to their competitors.
If there were no clones and we all started buying Carista, which then became as good as VCDS, what would happen to VCDS?
We shouldn't encourage the use of clones but neither should we get hung up about them and only allow bad things to be said about them.
 
And there is still no one up this end with the skills or knowledge willing to help, i need a tailgate coded and literally no one up he can do it, its genuinly making me think i should just sell the van (new T6) only because every mod i have planned (already bought the parts) requires coding or a wire run to the bcm etc, and every single auto spark i call is clueless, and no vcds members near by willing to make a few quid as im not wanting a cheapo or freebie
 
And there is still no one up this end with the skills or knowledge willing to help, i need a tailgate coded and literally no one up he can do it, its genuinly making me think i should just sell the van (new T6) only because every mod i have planned (already bought the parts) requires coding or a wire run to the bcm etc, and every single auto spark i call is clueless, and no vcds members near by willing to make a few quid as im not wanting a cheapo or freebie
Willing to help you with what?
What do you mean by coding your tailgate?
What mods are you looking to do?

Oh and welcome to the forum.
 
Hello,
Thanks for your reply,
I need the extra cables run from tailgate to bcm, and then it coded as the rear lock needs powered, also i need genuine power folding mirrors coded, fog lights connected, drl lights connected, but tbh its just the tailgate that i really need help with, my van is at a conversion company and basically the job has came to a standstill 2 weeks ago as no one can do it up here or i cant find some one willing, its not got the stage where the company wants me to collect my van half finished, which im not happy with.
 
Hello,
Thanks for your reply,
I need the extra cables run from tailgate to bcm, and then it coded as the rear lock needs powered,
also i need
genuine power folding mirrors coded,
fog lights connected,
DRL lights connected,
but tbh its just the tailgate that i really need help with, my van is at a conversion company and basically the job has came to a standstill 2 weeks ago as no one can do it up here or i cant find some one willing, its not got the stage where the company wants me to collect my van half finished, which im not happy with.
Are you doing a tailgate conversion?
 
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