I got a PCN from Scarborough Council last month for not displaying a pay & display ticket. I had one but it had moved on closing the side door of the van (you could see the back of it on their photo). I appealed, not expecting to get anywhere, as I had in fact failed to display. To my amazement they cancelled the ticket. Fair play to that council.
The following day I used the sticky tape from my PCN envelope to stick my ticket to the window, so at least I can thank them for leaving me that!
I suppose a court - if it went that far - would be concerned as to if and how you caused the parking company/their client a loss due to your parking.. if you were the only vehicle there, and you caused no obstruction to others using that bit of land, then that would be a reasonable argument.
A letter back to the parking company pointing out that you didn’t cause them any cost / harm / distress due to your momentary pause (and therefore don’t agree to pay them damages for said infringement on to their land) would probably be seen by the court to have been a reasonable measure towards mediation (naturally the company would send you a further demand for the payment, effectively ignoring the points raised in your letter, but it would still show that you tried to resolve it amicably and without wasting court time. (However, this is civil court - not criminal - so the cost isn’t borne by the taxpayer, so the court doesn’t care so much as to who’s paying)).
That’s just my view. As said above, Pepipoo is the place to research and discuss this type of thing as it’s what that forum is for.
But let us know what you decide to do, as no one likes paying out when they don’t / shouldn’t have to!
Look up fightyourprivateparkinginvoice on Facebook. The fella who runs the group, Tony Taylor, charges £10 and has a very good track record appealing "speculative invoices". There is plenty of information on the internet to appeal it yourself
I would start with:
"I do not accept your parking Invoice as I was not parked, Whilst I was sitting in my vehicle with the engine running, my partner went over to find and read your parking instructions, when she returned and informed me of the parking restrictions, we left accordingly"
"I do not accept your parking Invoice as I was not parked, Whilst I was sitting in my vehicle with the engine running, my partner went over to find and read your parking instructions, when she returned and informed me of the parking restrictions, we left accordingly"
Thanks for all the replies.
Last night I sent me appeal in to them online, and received confirmation it was received.
Says it can take upto 35 days for a reply
I don't have much hope as they seem to be a company and don't hold back, but thought I would try.
Will let you all know what happens....
Last night I sent me appeal in to them online, and received confirmation it was received.
Says it can take upto 35 days for a reply
I don't have much hope as they seem to be a company and don't hold back, but thought I would try.Will let you all know what happens....
I got one about 18 months ago for being stationary for literally 2 mins. Was advised that by appealing you are acknowledging that they have a claim and therefore less likely to win. Not sure how that works to be honest, but decided that because I'm not the type front it out and def the type to worry about it - just decided to pay it and forget about it. Until I read this thread...
Its ironic though isn't it that the DVLA will fail to classify a modified T6 which has had a camper conversion as a 'campervan' and only as 'van with windows'. . Yet if you park in a carpark with a no motorhome parking sign you get hit with a fine off the council...
I seen this quite recently.. the sign wasn't very clear as shown below but the council parking attendant was running round quite giddy putting parking tickets on any T6 in sight.
I seen this quite recently.. the sign wasn't very clear as shown below but the council parking attendant was running round quite giddy putting parking tickets on any T6 in sight.
I would avoid any car park with that sign as to me it suggests they only want cars or motorcycles. A van isn’t shown as an option, windows or not, and while some would interpret that as ‘it doesn’t say vans can’t park there’ we all know the enforcement officers view will be ‘it doesn’t say vans can park here’.
By that logic, only motorcycles and small, 3-door hatchbacks are allowed to park there - no estates, coupes saloons, SUVs, sports cars, crossovers, etc. Granted, this approach leaves you open to over-zealous enforcement
Different but the same...
I was on my way back from Retro Resus in Taunton back to Surrey a few months back. I stopped for fuel in a BP garage on the A303. £100 in diesel and a few sweets. Paid, off I went. A few weeks later I get a letter stating I left the garage without paying. So £100 plus a hefty fine. I checked my with my bank app and sure enough the payment was for £2.31 or something similar. I contact them direct and offer to pay the for the fuel and they say not good enough. I cough up in the end so the fine doesnt go up, after some research, seems if its a sum much more than you have paid for, ie not a fiver but £100's its for you to have noticed so you pay the fine. What utter rubbish, oh well
I was on my way back from Retro Resus in Taunton back to Surrey a few months back. I stopped for fuel in a BP garage on the A303. £100 in diesel and a few sweets. Paid, off I went. A few weeks later I get a letter stating I left the garage without paying. So £100 plus a hefty fine. I checked my with my bank app and sure enough the payment was for £2.31 or something similar. I contact them direct and offer to pay the for the fuel and they say not good enough. I cough up in the end so the fine doesnt go up, after some research, seems if its a sum much more than you have paid for, ie not a fiver but £100's its for you to have noticed so you pay the fine. What utter rubbish, oh well
2 years on and we never got a conclusion, what was the eventual outcome ????Thanks for all the replies.
Last night I sent me appeal in to them online, and received confirmation it was received.
Says it can take upto 35 days for a reply
Will let you all know what happens....
He’s banged up. 
HossP
Member
1. Dont ignore it. This usually results in stupendously high admin charges that one day come back to bite you.
2. Write to them explaining that you were not parked you were standing. There is a difference.
3. If they refuse to withdraw, ask to have the matter heard in court.
4. If they send it to court, you can then check the wording of the charge and determine whether or not ‘standing’ is defined the same as ‘parking.’
5. If you are in the right, as in you have not committed the offence as per the charge, plead not guilty. If you in fact committed the offence, plead guilty and explain it to the magistrate/registrar.
2. Write to them explaining that you were not parked you were standing. There is a difference.
3. If they refuse to withdraw, ask to have the matter heard in court.
4. If they send it to court, you can then check the wording of the charge and determine whether or not ‘standing’ is defined the same as ‘parking.’
5. If you are in the right, as in you have not committed the offence as per the charge, plead not guilty. If you in fact committed the offence, plead guilty and explain it to the magistrate/registrar.
Too many opinions, here’s what the Law says, applies to all us grunts but probably not the elite and those who make the Law
www.gov.uk
Parking fines and penalty charge notices
How to pay or challenge a penalty charge notice (PCN) or parking ticket - fixed penalty notice (FPN), standard or excess charge notice
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