Price of diesel in your area?

Yes, the world price of crude oil was higher in 2014 than it is now, yet we didn't see petrol and diesel prices so high.

We didn't have the 'net zero' millstone around our necks in 2014.
 
Sorry! Forgot you think Brexit is to blame for everything.
steady on @Bav i don't think that at all (although i'm struggling to see any benefits atm?) but it has effected the exchange rate has it not??

and the fossil fuel industry is opening new oil fields/coal mines all the time so i don't see how the 'net zero' target can be effecting prices??
 
The garage I referred to in post #365 are now selling diesel at 169.9p and petrol at 157.9p
I was at the Red Lion pub next door to that garage on Tuesday and I thought I'd mis-read the sign. Sadly I'd got a fairly full tank in the van!
If a very small garage like that, in a very rural area, can sell it so much cheaper than almost every other retailer you can bet there's a good dose of profiteering going on. The owner of that garage has an interesting FB page, he says it's simple greed and that the supply chain is holding prices up artificially.
 
steady on @Bav i don't think that at all (although i'm struggling to see any benefits atm?) but it has effected the exchange rate has it not??

and the fossil fuel industry is opening new oil fields/coal mines all the time so i don't see how the 'net zero' target can be effecting prices??
Just looking for a little balance in your narrative tbh.

Considering the past 10 years, since its peak in July 2014, GBP has lost 29% of its value against USD (the trading currency for oil). In the same period, the euro has lost over 23%, the Canadian dollar 24% and the yen 42%. So, I would say that there are stronger forces at work here than Brexit, would you not agree? (Note: no dogmatic denial on my part that Brexit is a contributory factor).

As for 'net zero', it is exactly the pursuit of this aim that has seen the UK shutdown it's coal industry, restrict North Sea oil exploration and point-blank refuse to frack, thus resulting in an exaggerated reliance on fuel and energy imports. Then there's the 'green levy' - whilst not directly applied to pump prices, this is a heavy price that all UK consumers are burdened with (knowingly or otherwise) and one which makes all but the most fortunate less financially resilient.
 
Ok, Longsutton north of Wisbech £194.9 (diesel).
Google/Howden £186.9
Asda north Carlisle £176.9

Go figure
 
Just looking for a little balance in your narrative tbh.

Considering the past 10 years, since its peak in July 2014, GBP has lost 29% of its value against USD (the trading currency for oil). In the same period, the euro has lost over 23%, the Canadian dollar 24% and the yen 42%. So, I would say that there are stronger forces at work here than Brexit, would you not agree? (Note: no dogmatic denial on my part that Brexit is a contributory factor).

As for 'net zero', it is exactly the pursuit of this aim that has seen the UK shutdown it's coal industry, restrict North Sea oil exploration and point-blank refuse to frack, thus resulting in an exaggerated reliance on fuel and energy imports. Then there's the 'green levy' - whilst not directly applied to pump prices, this is a heavy price that all UK consumers are burdened with (knowingly or otherwise) and one which makes all but the most fortunate less financially resilient.
Fracking won’t reduce any fuel costs at all but has a very high chance of causing irreversible damage to the environment and risk to human health.
It is banned in other countries too for this very reason.
We don’t need to race to the bottom!
 
Fracking won’t reduce any fuel costs at all but has a very high chance of causing irreversible damage to the environment and risk to human health.
It is banned in other countries too for this very reason.
We don’t need to race to the bottom!
Those are your opinions (except your last comment, which is a fallacious argument) - they are not facts.

Whilst all would agree that fracking has the potential to be environmentally damaging, most relevant experts have concluded that, done correctly and with the correct safeguards in place, fracking is as safe as any other form of subterranean resource exploitation.

As for the supply of fracked gas not having an impact on fuel prices, that appears to be a denial of the forces of supply and demand, so I'm unsure which economic model you've based your "won't reduce fuel costs" assertion upon. I would agree that if we started fracking today, the benefits wouldn't be realised in time to help with the currently-unfolding fuel-price crisis, but that argument only strengthens my belief that 'net zero' is a contributory factor to said crisis.
 
Most of the people I know are fully supportive of net zero.
As long as they can still have three foreign holidays a year. And use their patio heater. And drive the NC500. And have their central heating on 25 degrees from October until May. (The list goes on, I'm sure you get where I'm coming from!)
We demonstrate our commitment to the environment by purchasing vans made by a company who's method of meeting emissions regulations was cheating.
 
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