Reverse Camera and LED Tail Light conflict

Yes its a pain as I only ordered these lights as they were meant to be plug & plug. I've emailed THQ so keys see what they come back with.
Where is your camera power taken from? The reverse feed or new feed from the fuseboard?
 
Also double check your wiring with the schematic for the new relay, i found the one with the diode had lugs in different places and I had wired it wrong first time
 
Where is your camera power taken from? The reverse feed or new feed from the fuseboard?
Hi , I have a 12v feed from the fuse box going to 87 on the relay. There is also a blue wire spliced into the reverse wire & that goes into 85 on the relay.

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Also double check your wiring with the schematic for the new relay, i found the one with the diode had lugs in different places and I had wired it wrong first time
I was very careful and double check i put the connectors on the right numbers
 
I have fit the new relay & unfortunately it has made no difference. The camera works fine with the engine off, i turn the engine on and the relay goes crazy & the camera does not work, gutted.

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Hi Robert , thanks for the link. It does not mean much to me with my limited electrical knowledge. The camera was not fit by me but it has worked spot on until I installed the LED lights yesterday. I have done a rough sketch of how it looks to be currently wired, do you see anything wrong with this ?

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Whats happening at the block? Are they all joined together there?
The block is sealed hard plastic & several wires for the monitor are all joined inside. Like I said previously everything has worked fine for 3 years but for whatever reason these THQ led's dont like it.
 
Hi @Mick5280 welcome to the forum. It will be the reversing signal that’s taken from the reverse light bulb. The van switches these on and off electronically using PWM. Now you have LED lamps the resistance in the circuit is different. usually in this situation a relay is necessary, triggered by the reversing light but supplying a clean 12v supply to the camera.
Hi Deaky , I have the same situation with my new THQ rear lights, this is how my aftermarket camera is wired ( it has worked perfectly for over 3 years ), can you see an issue with the wiring now I am on LED lights rather than halogen ? many thanks

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Difficult to tell without knowing what the wires are for. I cant see a -ve connection for the camera. So the 'box' has a permanent +ve and a switched +ve from the reverse light? Have you verified that the relay is closing ok and not chattering? Maybe you need to code the rear lights to LED?
 
Difficult to tell without knowing what the wires are for. I cant see a -ve connection for the camera. So the 'box' has a permanent +ve and a switched +ve from the reverse light? Have you verified that the relay is closing ok and not chattering? Maybe you need to code the rear lights to LED?
the relay should be ok as its brand new, I only bought it on sunday as another forum member has said this certain relay solved his problems. My electrical skills are basic so I'll have to get an auto electrician to have a look at it.
 
the relay should be ok as its brand new, I only bought it on sunday as another forum member has said this certain relay solved his problems. My electrical skills are basic so I'll have to get an auto electrician to have a look at it.
You should be able to hear the relay 'click' once when you engage reverse, that will tell you if it is switching off the reverse feed correctly. Looking at your wiring diagram above it looks mostly correct but as @Deaky said its hard to verify as its hard to know whats connected at the box and also some of the wires I suspect are the visual feed rather than power.

I could sketch up a diagram of my set up if would be any help?

worth also checking your fuses, to rule that out, as you said it was working fine before.
 
You should be able to hear the relay 'click' once when you engage reverse, that will tell you if it is switching off the reverse feed correctly. Looking at your wiring diagram above it looks mostly correct but as @Deaky said its hard to verify as its hard to know whats connected at the box and also some of the wires I suspect are the visual feed rather than power.

I could sketch up a diagram of my set up if would be any help?

worth also checking your fuses, to rule that out, as you said it was working fine before.
With the ignition on ( engine turned off ) if i put it into reverse the relay clicks once as expected and the camera works perfect.
If I then turn the engine on & put it into reverse then the relay goes crazy & buzzes & the camera does not work.

if you could do a sketch of yours that would be much appreciated, many thanks.

The camera was fit in 2017 & I've had no issue at all until installed these Led lights so there is something that these lights are not liking.
 
With the ignition on ( engine turned off ) if i put it into reverse the relay clicks once as expected and the camera works perfect.
If I then turn the engine on & put it into reverse then the relay goes crazy & buzzes & the camera does not work.

if you could do a sketch of yours that would be much appreciated, many thanks.

The camera was fit in 2017 & I've had no issue at all until installed these Led lights so there is something that these lights are not liking.
Sounds like the relay is not doing the job and the remainder of the wiring is working as it should.

I believe that the diode on the relay is directional. Ill sketch it up later after work however in the meantime.

I have terminals 85 and 86 the other way. Therefore mine is:

85 -ve Connection to ground (chassis)
86 + feed from the reverse light (in your case the blue cable)

if your interested some background and further explanation is here: Automotive Relay Guide | 12 Volt Planet
 
Sounds like the relay is not doing the job and the remainder of the wiring is working as it should.

I believe that the diode on the relay is directional. Ill sketch it up later after work however in the meantime.

I have terminals 85 and 86 the other way. Therefore mine is:

85 -ve Connection to ground (chassis)
86 + feed from the reverse light (in your case the blue cable)

if your interested some background and further explanation is here: Automotive Relay Guide | 12 Volt Planet
Great link - thanks for that
 
Sounds like the relay is not doing the job and the remainder of the wiring is working as it should.

I believe that the diode on the relay is directional. Ill sketch it up later after work however in the meantime.

I have terminals 85 and 86 the other way. Therefore mine is:

85 -ve Connection to ground (chassis)
86 + feed from the reverse light (in your case the blue cable)

if your interested some background and further explanation is here: Automotive Relay Guide | 12 Volt Planet
Hi , i realised my 86 and 85 were the wrong way round after reading about diode direction. Also 30 & 87 were the wrong way round although im not sure that it mattered ?
Unfortunately swapping them round has made no difference and i still have the same issue. I've spoken to an auto electrician this afternoon & he seems to think its a simple fix ( fingers crossed ).
I've attached how it is currently wired.

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Sounds like the relay is not doing the job and the remainder of the wiring is working as it should.

I believe that the diode on the relay is directional. Ill sketch it up later after work however in the meantime.

I have terminals 85 and 86 the other way. Therefore mine is:

85 -ve Connection to ground (chassis)
86 + feed from the reverse light (in your case the blue cable)

if your interested some background and further explanation is here: Automotive Relay Guide | 12 Volt Planet
Hi Mate, update on the lights. Auto Electrician sorted it very easily. He fit a resistor on the switched live from my reverse light. No messing about with VCDS or anything like that. £40 job done, happy days !
 
Hi Mate, update on the lights. Auto Electrician sorted it very easily. He fit a resistor on the switched live from my reverse light. No messing about with VCDS or anything like that. £40 job done, happy days !
Are you sure it was a resistor and not a diode?
 
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