Startline Steering Wheel Upgrade

@xpfloyd did you manage to do this in the end?
just wondering as i have a euro 6 T6 startline - with cruise on the stalks.. and im like you always searching to control the radio from the wheel...
Sorry for the lack of response! Just realised I had missed your question whilst looking back into this thread.

I still havent done this but really want to get it done. @Absolut5 was my initial plan but they are about 8 hours drive away and I havent been able to make that work. Im currently trying to find out if there is anyone closer to me, preferably in Scotland
 
@xpfloyd no worries i managed to do this in the end! Wasnt easy esp getting the wheel. removing the airbag was nervwracking but easy really. Easy job for you to do. Only pain i found was the room in the footwell for working/soldering the wires - the BCM is really craply positioned for any diy..
 
@xpfloyd no worries i managed to do this in the end! Wasnt easy esp getting the wheel. removing the airbag was nervwracking but easy really. Easy job for you to do. Only pain i found was the room in the footwell for working/soldering the wires - the BCM is really craply positioned for any diy..
Ahh good to hear you managed it yourself. So assuming I can source a wheel and airbag, get my own one off and fit the new one what are the remaining steps? Are there 2 wires that need to be added from behind the wheel to the BCM and then some VCDS coding? Do you have a diagram of exactly where the wires go and who done your coding?

Sorry for all the questions
 
i'll post some details up in a bit... i managed to piece together the info, with help from here and the info from where i got the wheel (name slipped my mind). I coded it with obd11 - very cheap and easy to do, would recommend this tool.. works on android only.
 
Thanks mate, any info would be appreciated as DIY seems like the most cost effective way and I dont mind giving things a try
 
hello @xpfloyd , so, there are a few tutorials online that you can find for T5's but nothing really for T6. As far as i can tell its the same thing you need to do.
I'll see if i can find the sheet that i got from Vagnostics (where i got the wheel & airbag). On this, im not sure i could actually recommend Matt - he knows his stuff but is just crap at contact. You pay and you dont here anything.. i got to the point of having my lawyer draft a letter!

basically, with the wheel you'll need to get two repair wires. These need to have the small square end on for the steering wheel side.

Battery off 15-30mins before with keys in ignition and turned one click.

Once you get the wheel off and have access to the electrics (PITA to get free i found) you need to plug into pin 9 and 10.

Pin 9 in the wheel end goes to the headlight switch where you pull a 12v. I used crimp connectors - cables are short so pull the cloth tape off to give you more slck otheriwse its tricky.

Pin 10 goes down the steering column (watch for routing the cable to the original cables to avoid pinching) to the white BCM plug. Pin 17. If you have electric windows this is prob full so you need to join two cables into one. I tried soldering but here it was too cold & wet and space is frankly the worst i have seen and i gave up in the end i again used a crimp and shrink wrap to protect. The cable should be green & its real thin - watch this!

once all back in, battery on and hopefully no airbag probs..

then code and tell the van it has a mfsw..

youtube i used alot to see bits:

The guide from vagnostics is attached..


be very careful of the pins that go to the wheel end - they need to go through an initial guide, and then continue through further - sounds weird but if youre not careful the cable will push them out of this and you end up with the connector being stuck...(i had this and it snapped..:-(). I used a toothpick to push against with the metal connector and guided it through like that..
 

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Awesome @scotia !! To get this done professionally is just over £600 (professional retrofits in Nuneaton) however it’s about a 6 hour drive from me in each direction. I’ve found a wheel and airbag on eBay which is £490 delivered so keen to DIY it and save some cash and also a full day of driving to Nuneaton and back. If there was somewhere closer I would just pay someone but haven’t found anywhere in Scotland. I’m still not sure on the vcds bit but I’ll worry about that once the wheel is fitted.

One other question - did you swap out your RH stalk to one that didn’t have the select and trip buttons on it (since the wheel takes over that) or did you leave in? The company above recommends that the stalk is changed so that it doesn’t confuse things (£85+ vat extra)

Oh and where did you purchase the repair wires with the square connectors?
 
Buttons on stalk can stay but whichever set of buttons you touch first are the only ones that will work until you switch the ignition off and on again

Give me a shout if you get stuck for the cables and I will make a couple for you
 
This is the wheel I’m looking to purchase. I’m hoping that’s the correct button config for my euro 5?

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Whilst the wheel looks different, the button layout is the same as my EU5 Highline MFSW.
HTH.
 
i think it should be ok - but im no expert in that - i went with one from vagnostics that seemed sure to work. Check with pauly as he mentioned for me that if the buttons arent from a T6 then they wont work? just check before the cash!

the you tube misses some parts out, and some of those are the trickiest but it is all v similar.

i have cruise on the stalks ans its exactly as @Pauly said. Works a treat.

Get the cables from pauly too, you really just need 2 cables of a certain length (sorry i didnt mesure them) with a connector each - the other end of each youre going to have to tap into another wire.

try and check with @Deaky maybe for the wheel? he knows his stuff (as do alot of the folks on here really tbh!)
 
No it’s not them, they are the same as the ones we well in the shop and are for extra speakers in back of radio or populating a spare fuseway etc
I have the correct crimps but they are very small and do not fit in a standard non insulated crimp tool, I would rather send you a couple leads made up unless you specifically want just the crimps, or you can get the correct repair wire to join onto ?
 
No it’s not them, they are the same as the ones we well in the shop and are for extra speakers in back of radio or populating a spare fuseway etc
I have the correct crimps but they are very small and do not fit in a standard non insulated crimp tool, I would rather send you a couple leads made up unless you specifically want just the crimps, or you can get the correct repair wire to join onto ?
Thanks for the info Pauly. If you can supply pre crimped with the cables that would be ideal. Not sure of the required lengths? Back of steering wheel to BCM maybe 1.0m?
 
1m is plenty, its a relatively short run from the SW to either the bcm or the light switch. But better to have longer than you need!
 
nice - so have you not added any wires yet? or are you going to undo it all again to get to the wires?

did you look into obd11? its a good buy! at 50odd gbp i think its not expensive and seems powerful.
 
nice - so have you not added any wires yet? or are you going to undo it all again to get to the wires?

did you look into obd11? its a good buy! at 50odd gbp i think its not expensive and seems powerful.
I couldn’t remember if the cables went into the steering wheel loom or the loom within the steering column but I just wanted to get the wheel on before I head away in the camper for 4 days this weekend. If I have to take it off again I will, only took 10 mins to swap over.

Do you have a link to the OBD11? I googled it but it came up with all sorts
 
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