notchback
Member
It's a startline Kombi van with A/C as an optional extra I believe? Definitely a button in the glovebox all be it a broken one!
2016 T6 102, Stolen / Recovered. Charging Fault [Resolved]
Great news that you have cleared most of those faults with that one fuse 
I don’t want to put a downer on it and I can understand that fuse SA8 could be vacant on some vans but what I don’t get is why that 50A fuse is sitting there at all and the fact it is unsecured at one end. It seems weird unless the van has been prepared for something else to go in there.
Unconnected to your issues but you would be surprised what people will nick a car or van for. A friend of mine had the front end of his Ford SMax removed and left on his own drive overnight while he was sleeping 20metres away purely so they could remove the front parking sensors including the loom.
I don’t want to put a downer on it and I can understand that fuse SA8 could be vacant on some vans but what I don’t get is why that 50A fuse is sitting there at all and the fact it is unsecured at one end. It seems weird unless the van has been prepared for something else to go in there.
Unconnected to your issues but you would be surprised what people will nick a car or van for. A friend of mine had the front end of his Ford SMax removed and left on his own drive overnight while he was sleeping 20metres away purely so they could remove the front parking sensors including the loom.
notchback
Member
I agree it's odd the fuse is in there. I spoke to my local TPS and they look at specific parts schematics for that vans VIN number and they say there is no cable / wiring listed for fuse SA8.Great news that you have cleared most of those faults with that one fuse
I don’t want to put a downer on it and I can understand that fuse SA8 could be vacant on some vans but what I don’t get is why that 50A fuse is sitting there at all and the fact it is unsecured at one end. It seems weird unless the van has been prepared for something else to go in there.
Unconnected to your issues but you would be surprised what people will nick a car or van for. A friend of mine had the front end of his Ford SMax removed and left on his own drive overnight while he was sleeping 20metres away purely so they could remove the front parking sensors including the loom.
Since everything seems to now be working as it should, I can only assume it is now correct.
If the van does not have factory trailer towbar electrics (as per scan), nor second battery, nor a front seat electric lumbar support - seems that SA8 has no function.
notchback
Member
UPDATE!
The van has been driving perfectly, with no error messages etc until today. Now the engine management light came on again and the scan reveals the Glow plugs on all cylinders have intermittent electrical fault? I have copied the codes and full scan below. (ignore the ABS fault, the new TPMS reset switch is on order)
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this?
The van has been driving perfectly, with no error messages etc until today. Now the engine management light came on again and the scan reveals the Glow plugs on all cylinders have intermittent electrical fault? I have copied the codes and full scan below. (ignore the ABS fault, the new TPMS reset switch is on order)
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this?
Code:
Wednesday,02,September,2020,12:18:46:41168
VCDS Version: Release 20.4.2 (x64) Running on Windows 8.1 x64
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 04L-907-309-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 04L 906 056 KA HW: 04L 907 445
Component and/or Version: R4 2.0l TDI H02 4047
Software Coding: 00114014430401090000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KA 004003 (VN75)
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056JS_004.rod
VCID: 76B5E5B0084D30BB78F-8022
4 Faults Found:
15916 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
P0671 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15918 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11)
P0672 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15920 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
P0673 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15922 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13)
P0674 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass at air mass meter 1: 43.2 kg/h
Standardised airflow ratio: 1.209 counts
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Act.value: 29.00 %
Throttl.valve adapt. 1 bank 1: posit feedback - Act.value: 0.13 %
Charge air pressure specified value: 1.122 bar
Absolute intake pressure: 99 kPa abs
Mean injection quantity: 9 mg/stroke
Index of current engine mode: 0
Index of next requested engine mode: 0
Index of engine target mode: 0
Readiness: N/A
FULL SCAN:
Wednesday,02,September,2020,12:20:06:41168
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
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VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZHH029878 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 5F 61 0B
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZHH029878 Mileage: 35320km-21946miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXGB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V2.clb
Part No SW: 04L 906 056 KA HW: 04L 907 445
Component: R4 2.0l TDI H02 4047
Revision: 23002001
Coding: 00114014430401090000
Shop #: WSC 00000 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KA 004003
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056JS_004.rod
VCID: 76B5E5B0084D30BB78F-8022
4 Faults Found:
15916 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
P0671 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15918 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11)
P0672 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15920 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
P0673 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Preheat time: 2.5 s
Glow status: Post-heat
Extern.temp.sens.1 bank 1: raw value: 19.5 °C
15922 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13)
P0674 00 [236] - Electrical Fault
MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2031.01.29
Time: 16:56:32
Engine speed: 927.75 /min
Normed load value: 35.3 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 18 °C
Intake air temperature: 18 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.742 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Air mass at air mass meter 1: 43.2 kg/h
Standardised airflow ratio: 1.209 counts
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Act.value: 29.00 %
Throttl.valve adapt. 1 bank 1: posit feedback - Act.value: 0.13 %
Charge air pressure specified value: 1.122 bar
Absolute intake pressure: 99 kPa abs
Mean injection quantity: 9 mg/stroke
Index of current engine mode: 0
Index of next requested engine mode: 0
Index of engine target mode: 0
Readiness: N/A
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 P HW: 7E0 907 379 M
Component: ESC H06 0133
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 42126000000287
Coding: 307E4098256484870C7D027DA48A21F3790000
Shop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
VCID: 3FDB409467F7B1F36B9-806A
1 Fault Found:
0397 - TPMS Warning
C102D F0 [137] - Pressure Loss
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 49
Mileage: 35315 km
Date: 2020.08.29
Time: 13:54:59
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 02071613470298
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EA5FD90207D78FB20F-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 047 AK HW: 7E0 907 047 AK
Component: Climatic-T5 H22 0708
Revision: 00001002
Coding: 0000000003
Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
VCID: 73B3DCA41B3F25935F1-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744
Revision: B9081001 Serial number: 0982 200160355
Coding: E0A4303A0A212031002009742C2B8C540F00708F60464D60320400220800
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 188775
VCID: 2A0D01C08CF5245B2C7-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 P HW: 7E0 959 801 P
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 0653
Serial number: KU0KU019071662016989
Coding: 1400B0
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 P HW: 7E0 959 802 P
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 0653
Serial number: KU0KU020071662028142
Coding: 0400A0
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 G HW: 7E0 959 655 G
Component: VW10Airbag021 H08 0018
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003V3001GEM4
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003231
Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
VCID: 3A2D31807CD594DB5C7-806E
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 S HW: 7E0 920 960 S
Component: KOMBI H03 1104
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 450B010300
Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW31.rod
VCID: 392F2E8C79D39FC355D-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744
Revision: B9081001
Coding: 042305
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 188775
VCID: 6889BBC85279D64BFA3-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 1104
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
VCID: 6A8DC1C04CF5E45BEC7-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
Part No SW: 1K8 035 150 L HW: 1K8 035 150 L
Component: MU-E-D-ER 055 7067
Serial number: 07061600011928
Coding: 065700003C00000041111101008000001F0000C60000010001
Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW32.rod
VCID: 2E050DD0B09D487BF0F-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 534 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: Batt.regelung H81 0744
Serial number: 0982 200160355
Coding: 030B1A73
Shop #: WSC 02739 790 00000
VCID: 6889BBC85279D64BFA3-803C
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 915 181 K HW: 7E0 915 181 K
Component: J367-BDMConti H03 1050
Serial number: 75410903001607160349
No fault code found.
End----(Elapsed Time: 01:04, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
Did you have a look at the glow plug relay / module previously?
You can test for main power feed....
You can test for main power feed....
notchback
Member
Is there a method available for testing the main power feed?
Use a meter? Turn on ignition?
notchback
Member
I'm still having issues with the glow plugs, engine management light is on.
I have just removed the battery again to access the control unit and confirm 100% that SA6 fuse is good, which it is. I have also checked SB33 5A fuse as you suggested which is also good.
It is very difficult to chase the wires to check for good connections as they just disappear in to the depths!
I did discover a loom that seems to go nowhere, it doesn't appear to have been cut as it looks insulated from factory. It's underneath the small fuse box B?
Any other suggestions before I box it back together? I have it in pieces at the moment.
Thanks.
notchback
Member
notchback
Member
Hi All,
Another update - and maybe someone can shed some light on this?
I couldn't resolve the glow plug fault myself after trying everything I could do, so I booked the van in to VW. It took forever to get an appointment due to covid set backs, but the van is currently there at time of posting this.
After 2 hours of diagnosis today, I got a phone call from the service team saying that the water pump needs replacing and the EGR module needs to be flashed? (guessing re programmed?)
The service department couldn't elaborate any further though, and couldn't tell me how these things were linked to the Glow Plugs on all cylinders showing up as faulty. (as in the ross-tech scan posted above) They have quoted me £549, but again she couldn't tell me if this was going to resolve all the faults?
I'm a little surprised the water pump needs replacing since the van has only covered 20k miles?
Can anyone throw any light on this for me!? I've not given the go-ahead for the work yet since I cannot understand how these things are linked.
Thanks.
Another update - and maybe someone can shed some light on this?
I couldn't resolve the glow plug fault myself after trying everything I could do, so I booked the van in to VW. It took forever to get an appointment due to covid set backs, but the van is currently there at time of posting this.
After 2 hours of diagnosis today, I got a phone call from the service team saying that the water pump needs replacing and the EGR module needs to be flashed? (guessing re programmed?)
The service department couldn't elaborate any further though, and couldn't tell me how these things were linked to the Glow Plugs on all cylinders showing up as faulty. (as in the ross-tech scan posted above) They have quoted me £549, but again she couldn't tell me if this was going to resolve all the faults?
I'm a little surprised the water pump needs replacing since the van has only covered 20k miles?
Can anyone throw any light on this for me!? I've not given the go-ahead for the work yet since I cannot understand how these things are linked.
Thanks.
Er..... eh?
Not sure 9n that.........
Maybe they have spotted a leak when looking at a glow plug issue?
Not sure 9n that.........
Maybe they have spotted a leak when looking at a glow plug issue?
notchback
Member
It makes no sense to me, I'm going to call them first thing in the morning and ask to speak to the technician. I can't see how those things are linked to the fault I have?
notchback
Member
I spoke to a VW independent specialist at length, told him what I had tried, and he said that's all he would be able to do. He recommended going to VW since they are the experts?!
Roadrage123
Member
The water pump has a multiplug attached, on these it is electric as well mechanical sometimes fault codes appear when fault detected more advanced now
notchback
Member
I guess it's possible the water pump has a fault separately to my main faults, but even then I'd be surprised at only 20k miles
