- 204ps Bi-Turbo CXEB T6 Engine & Turbo problems -

Dellmassive

I would not be surprised if a strait question to an employee of a dealership was answered either vagally or not at all a mechanic its not really his problem, he has done his work and maybe the dealership has no clue either. I agree the engine number should be on the block but you may need to write to VW direct for confirmation. They must know but I guess the whole episode was a painful rush for them as well. While you are a reasonable guy, I would imagine that many owners may not have been, right or wrong, for one reason or another and garages might have been very harassed and so just so glad to finish the work. Any way i hope hat it all goes smoothly for you and that this engine exceeds expectations! :)
 
Many many years ago I bought a brand new short engine for a Golf via a UK VAG dealer and this had no numbers on it at all apart from a label with a part number. I letter stamped my original engine number on it when I installed it, rightly or wrongly. I would have thought an engine number is only etched onto the block at the factory when it has been assigned to a given vehicle and about to be fitted on the production line.
 
Curlynot said:
Many many years ago I bought a brand new short engine for a Golf via a UK VAG dealer and this had no numbers on it at all apart from a label with a part number. I letter stamped my original engine number on it when I installed it, rightly or wrongly. I would have thought an engine number is only etched onto the block at the factory when it has been assigned to a given vehicle and about to be fitted on the production line.
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You would assume that each engine, once fully built at the factory would be assigned a unique serial number..... Then when fitted in the van that number would be added to the vans documents.

They must be serialized, even if just by manufacturer date.
 
Yes you would think so in this day and age, like I said mine was years ago.

Perhaps someone on here with dealer access can shed more light on the subject as its getting a more common issue.
 
Hi all - I'm new here and have just discovered this thread after putting down a £750 deposit on a 2017 (17) T6 California 4Motion DSG, 204ps. This is with a private seller. The Cali has loads and loads of service history, regular use of genuine VW 504/507 oil every 10-12k, plus a recent DMF replacement etc. and seller says it's currently consuming 1l of oil every 2000 miles (no way to prove/disprove this) which is within VW tolerance. Mileage is currently at 120k.

Am I taking a huge risk by purchasing this van (£35k) and walking in to a minefield and imminent issues, or does the 120k on the clock suggest this is an engine without the issues (barring the fact turbos could go etc.). I just can't afford a £10k - £16k bill in a few months' time.

Thanks in advance - and really appreciate all the posts to highlight awareness etc; I've read all with sympathy!

Cheers.
 
T6Enquirer said:
Hi all - I'm new here and have just discovered this thread after putting down a £750 deposit on a 2017 (17) T6 California 4Motion DSG, 204ps. This is with a private seller. The Cali has loads and loads of service history, regular use of genuine VW 504/507 oil every 10-12k, plus a recent DMF replacement etc. and seller says it's currently consuming 1l of oil every 2000 miles (no way to prove/disprove this) which is within VW tolerance. Mileage is currently at 120k.

Am I taking a huge risk by purchasing this van (£35k) and walking in to a minefield and imminent issues, or does the 120k on the clock suggest this is an engine without the issues (barring the fact turbos could go etc.). I just can't afford a £10k - £16k bill in a few months' time.

Thanks in advance - and really appreciate all the posts to highlight awareness etc; I've read all with sympathy!

Cheers.
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I'm sorry to say but yes, walk away. According to my mechanic, despite what VW claims, 1L every 10k KM is already very high. My engine also had full service history, always the right oil (and I had to submit the full oil change history to VW for them to agree to any compensation), and I baby that engine/van. It had around 120k km on the clock when the engine was swapped.
 
T6Enquirer said:
Hi all - I'm new here and have just discovered this thread after putting down a £750 deposit on a 2017 (17) T6 California 4Motion DSG, 204ps. This is with a private seller. The Cali has loads and loads of service history, regular use of genuine VW 504/507 oil every 10-12k, plus a recent DMF replacement etc. and seller says it's currently consuming 1l of oil every 2000 miles (no way to prove/disprove this) which is within VW tolerance. Mileage is currently at 120k.

Am I taking a huge risk by purchasing this van (£35k) and walking in to a minefield and imminent issues, or does the 120k on the clock suggest this is an engine without the issues (barring the fact turbos could go etc.). I just can't afford a £10k - £16k bill in a few months' time.

Thanks in advance - and really appreciate all the posts to highlight awareness etc; I've read all with sympathy!

Cheers.
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It's a tricky one...

You have the cxeb engine in the date range.... But that's not to say the engine will definitely go bad.

There are loads of vans about that appear to be unaffected, and there is a lucky list on here with members that are 100k plus miles with no issues.

But you could hit 80k miles and run into problems.

Also if you look at the effected list above, not everyone needs a new engine, there are loads of people having new turbos..... So what about there block? - so that must imply that it's not every single cxeb that will have block issues.

So you need to balance up the possible risk factor against the price of the van....

Maybe look at a separate warranty policy that would cover possible engine trouble for the next 5years and offset that cost.

Or maybe just go with it and see what happens?..... But if things do go wrong you may be looking an engine swap.... Or maybe a turbo.

The 204ps is a brilliant engine, I love mine.

And if you are really worried...... Then just save up some more and get a post 2019 van with the cxec 199ps engine.(That seems fine so far)

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Dellmassive said:
It's a tricky one...

You have the cxeb engine in the date range.... But that's not to say the engine will definitely go bad.

There are loads of vans about that appear to be unaffected, and there is a lucky list on here with members that are 100k plus miles with no issues.

But you could hit 80k miles and run into problems.

Also if you look at the effected list above, not everyone needs a new engine, there are loads of people having new turbos..... So what about there block? - so that must imply that it's not every single cxeb that will have block issues.

So you need to balance up the possible risk factor against the price of the van....

Maybe look at a separate warranty policy that would cover possible engine trouble for the next 5years and offset that cost.

Or maybe just go with it and see what happens?..... But if things do go wrong you may be looking an engine swap.... Or maybe a turbo.

The 204ps is a brilliant engine, I love mine.

And if you are really worried...... Then just save up some more and get a post 2019 van with the cxec 199ps engine.(That seems fine so far)

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It's already at 120K miles and using a litre of oil every 2K miles.
I wonder why the current owner is selling????
I'd say that all of the warning signs are present..... £35,000 buys a van without these troubling issues.
 
DaveD said:
It's already at 120K miles and using a litre of oil every 2K miles.
I wonder why the current owner is selling????
I'd say that all of the warning signs are present..... £35,000 buys a van without these troubling issues.
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Ah...

Now I've re-read the post.

That's 5L top up per 10k mile service interval ..... That's definitely not good.(It's should be 500ml-1L)

And if that's going down the exhaust then the DPF will be knackered next.

So I agree and retract my previous thoughts..... That high oil loss is already a problem.
 
There are quite a few people bailing out of the affected 204 vehicles before it goes wrong. Just look on the various selling sites. You can see lots of nice vans, discounted from what they should be.
I would bail on it definitely
 
Hi all - thanks for your comments, really useful! And there was nothing overly negative; all fact based / risk based / experienced comments, exactly what I was after.

As an update, I have walked away from the deal and fortunately had my deposit returned in full. The hunt continues for me, but I won't be looking at the 2016-1018 204ps T6! Will keep saving the pennies and look for a 2019 199ps or later.

Thanks all again, really appreciated.
 
T6Enquirer said:
Hi all - thanks for your comments, really useful! And there was nothing overly negative; all fact based / risk based / experienced comments, exactly what I was after.

As an update, I have walked away from the deal and fortunately had my deposit returned in full. The hunt continues for me, but I won't be looking at the 2016-1018 204ps T6! Will keep saving the pennies and look for a 2019 199ps or later.

Thanks all again, really appreciated.
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You could always buy a 2016-2018 T6 204 that's already been fixed for you ;)
 
T6Enquirer said:
Hi all - thanks for your comments, really useful! And there was nothing overly negative; all fact based / risk based / experienced comments, exactly what I was after.

As an update, I have walked away from the deal and fortunately had my deposit returned in full. The hunt continues for me, but I won't be looking at the 2016-1018 204ps T6! Will keep saving the pennies and look for a 2019 199ps or later.

Thanks all again, really appreciated.
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As an owner 2019 199 I would tend to go along but at first before the 204 saga I had wondered why my vehicle was deficient by 5 what Evers. Now of course I am relieved and what is two and a half percent in any case it is only a small part of the story. I was however wondering has and if some 6.1 have had an elevation back towards 204 does that include an update for 2019 199 to 204? just wondering
 
T6Enquirer said:
As an update, I have walked away from the deal and fortunately had my deposit returned in full. The hunt continues for me, but I won't be looking at the 2016-1018 204ps T6! Will keep saving the pennies and look for a 2019 199ps or later.
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You might be on the lookout for 2016-2018 204ps models that have had their engines replaced. You could find yourself a good deal on a van with a practically new engine. You just need to get the paperwork from VW, as the engine swap should be registered with them.

I know I'm keeping mine, the new engine makes it feel like a new van!
 
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