360° camera (Area view 2) - retrofit
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This project is still in work, with very slow progress.
As soon as i find time and get it running, i will post it.
I just ordered the Calibration-Sheet as simple Plotter Print on DINA0+++ Paper
Lets see how that works.
Although I could use my daughters' art skills to draw it I have decided to use local printing specialist.
It is going to be ready for collection tomorrow and I hope it is well spent €20
.At first I am going to use it for my "highline" reversing camera mod
and then eventually switch over to "Area view 2".
Just bought 3 video cables for my front & both side cameras (2.5 meter each).
Another well invested €25 = £ 23
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Thanks to @dnoermann 's research we know that there is even more complex calibration required.
Not necessarily the same generation but example can be seen below.
Not necessarily the same generation but example can be seen below.
Christmas is over and still more presents arrivedJust bought 3 video cables for my front & both side cameras (2.5 meter each).
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And I am going to dare to share.
All required calibration templates attached below.
It is a Corel Draw file but can be viewed & tweaked with Inkscape as well.
Pdf extension is used for undercover operations
.I’m trying to pick up the reverse feed from the B pillar but mine has two green\black wires. I’ve got a tailgate with reverse lamps each side, have I got two wires in the B pillar because there is one for each side?
I just want to make sure I tap in to the right one if anyone can help.
Could well be, mine originally only had one reverse light and there was only one green/black cable. Can you backprobe it at a connection and put a multimeter between it and ground while you select reverse?
I want to ask @Robert, @dnoermann and @mmi about their opinion, there are some VWs and Skodas, which have Area View system, in which the reverse camera is with dynamic lines. Browsing through ETKA, I only managed to find 2 types of cameras, one with ordinary 2 pin FAKRA connector and additional CAN and power connector, which has dynamic lines and eventual Trailer Assist, PR Code - KA2. The other one, which is with 4 pin HSD connector and LVDS signal and PR Code - KA6?! And there is, of course, the simplest of the cameras with static lines, PR Code - KA1, but it's not related to Area View system!
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I probed the first one and it worked so I’ve tapped in to it, I didn’t bother trying the second one.
Eventually I have managed to perform my bench test.
Next step is Data Set upload and I am convinced that Sharan 7N is going to be the most appropriate
as its wheelbase is 2920 mm and this is only 80 mm short to T5/T6 SWB of 3000 mm.
Passat B8 wheel base is 2791 mm and data set from that vehicle would be too far off.
Next step is Data Set upload and I am convinced that Sharan 7N is going to be the most appropriate
as its wheelbase is 2920 mm and this is only 80 mm short to T5/T6 SWB of 3000 mm.
Passat B8 wheel base is 2791 mm and data set from that vehicle would be too far off.
You have quite an impressive testing setup!
Is there GW connected, I can't see it in this picture? Did you manage to get an image already, or in other words, I see that FAKRA is connected on the Area View unit, but where does the other end goes?!Hello @Robert, want to ask you some questions:
1. "Next step is Data Set upload and I am convinced that Sharan 7N is going to be the most appropriate
as its wheelbase is 2920 mm and this is only 80 mm short to T5/T6 SWB of 3000 mm. "
Are you sure Sharan 7N was factory fitted with Area View system, hence the presence of Data Set file?!
2. What about the T6.1 LWB, which is 3400 mm? The closest is the one of VW Teramont ( 2979 mm ), on which this system is fitted. What in your opinion will be the effect of shorter wheelbase Data Set on a longer wheelbase vehicle, I think there will be some distortions on the both ends of the image!
I want to thank you for all your time and effort you are putting on this project and sharing the details with us!
1. "Next step is Data Set upload and I am convinced that Sharan 7N is going to be the most appropriate
as its wheelbase is 2920 mm and this is only 80 mm short to T5/T6 SWB of 3000 mm. "
Are you sure Sharan 7N was factory fitted with Area View system, hence the presence of Data Set file?!
2. What about the T6.1 LWB, which is 3400 mm? The closest is the one of VW Teramont ( 2979 mm ), on which this system is fitted. What in your opinion will be the effect of shorter wheelbase Data Set on a longer wheelbase vehicle, I think there will be some distortions on the both ends of the image!
I want to thank you for all your time and effort you are putting on this project and sharing the details with us!
Yes Can Gateway is connected, actually on PQ25 platform there are three controllers in one box(BCM-09, CAN GW-19 & Battery regulator-61).You have quite an impressive testing setup!
To get image you need DM and IC connected to CAN network and I am too lazy to pull these out of my vehicle.
Regarding data set I only looked up wheel bases but I didn't really check what files are available.
So after verifying I found the following data sets: 3 versions for Passat, 2 versions for Tiguan & 1 for Ateca.
Remember that this retrofit is going to be based on "Area View 2"
and so far we have verified 2 units 5Q0 907 556 B & 5Q0 907 556 C.
This is going to be experimenting approach as I am hoping that even if data set is not going to give us correct parameters
the system calibration of 4 cameras should compensate for these imperfections.
Vehicle dimensions:
Seat Ateca
VW Passat B8
VW Passat B8 face lift
VW Tiguan
VW Tiguan face lift
Thanx for your prompt reply! I am not familiar with PQ25, that's why my confusion on GW!
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