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My M135i replaced a 335d with that engine. One of the best diesels you can buy.

But don't forget, M sport is just visual; no extra performance (I spent ages looking for my 335d as I wanted an SE on 17s for the stealth look).

Also chose grey for our M135i because it "hides" the M Performance bits; the grey wheels, mirrors and the black exhausts. I go great lengths to get Q cars when possible!
Favourite q car ever was Mk2 Cortina Savage, 3 litre Essex lump in place of the usual 1600, now that was a great car wish I still had it worth a fortune now!
 
Now that sounds like a proper car. Must admit I do the classic car show every year in NEC in Birmingham , I just love the place, just brings back brilliant memories as a kid. :thumbsup:
 
Now that sounds like a proper car. Must admit I do the classic car show every year in NEC in Birmingham , I just love the place, just brings back brilliant memories as a kid. :thumbsup:
Totally agree I'm still happiest in a rwd non turbo machines just don't own one currently, my favourite was my Opel Manta 2.0 stroked to 2.4, Blydenstein head, fully balanced, sooo much fun to drive, drifting before it became fashionable......
 
Favourite q car ever was Mk2 Cortina Savage, 3 litre Essex lump in place of the usual 1600, now that was a great car wish I still had it worth a fortune now!
That sounds VERY cool!

My dad had a few - a Ford P100 Cortina pickup with a very tuned Rover V8 under the bonnet, a Mitsi Shogun (the boxy shape) fully converted by BBR Racing to about 240bhp and one of the last mk1 Gtis (1.8) done up straight from the factory.

A "sleeper" seems to be a heavily converted but stock(ish) looking car, a Q car seems to be a factory car that looks pretty normal but goes like stink. Some of the Audi S cars do a good Q car job.
 
Found out today the 4motion works quite well, icy junction lost grip under braking, off brakes steered into skid, got some traction at the last second and just missed the curb and the steel fence behind it - phew!
 
Something to be aware of.......a couple of weeks ago our Yeti 4x4 failed to get up an icy hill even though it is clod with winter tyres. No warnings on the dash, but once VCDS was plugged in it gave an intermittent open circuit failure for the Haldex pump. Got it over the pit and then ran the output tests using VCDS and sure enough, the pump was not running. I bet there are a load of Haldex 4 vehicles out there in a similar situation. I know we have Haldex 5 or our T6s, but I wouldn't be surprised if failures are not displayed on the dash either.
 
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I think if you've got untreated ice as opposed to just snow, any vehicle would struggle, my 110 Defender often took a slide on corners if I wasn't careful.
 
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Something to be aware of.......a couple of weeks ago our Yeti 4x4 failed to get up an icy hill even though it is clod with winter tyres. No warnings on the dash, but once VCDS was plugged in it gave an intermittent open circuit failure for the Haldex pump. Got it over the pit and then ran the output tests using VCDS and sure enough, the pump was not running. I bet there are a load of Haldex 4 vehicles out there in a similar situation. I know we have Haldex 5 or our T6s, but I wouldn't be surprised if failures are not displayed on the dash either.
Not totally related but one of many items we had replaced on our old 4motion Cali was the rear diff.
 
Something to be aware of.......a couple of weeks ago our Yeti 4x4 failed to get up an icy hill even though it is clod with winter tyres. No warnings on the dash, but once VCDS was plugged in it gave an intermittent open circuit failure for the Haldex pump. Got it over the pit and then ran the output tests using VCDS and sure enough, the pump was not running. I bet there are a load of Haldex 4 vehicles out there in a similar situation. I know we have Haldex 5 or our T6s, but I wouldn't be surprised if failures are not displayed on the dash either.
That is a bit surprising that there was no indication given all warning indicators modern vehicles are capable of displaying. I do drive ours up a sand mound once a month just to work the system, (I wouldn't get up it without 4wd), and also operate the rear diff lock (although that would be far more difficult to work out if it was working.) I don't think even cross axeling it would show it up, as the front axel has an electronic diff lock I think.
I remember reading about mk1 Discovery's and how many of them couldn't engage either the centre diff-lock or low range because the linkage was seized solid, due to most users never using it.
 
Same with our old Cali diff lock; used it once in 3.5 years, it wouldn’t disengage. Decided not to spend £900 on it for this Cali.
You don’t see many California’s green laning.

But if you tow, especially a boat, it could be useful.
 
Same with our old Cali diff lock; used it once in 3.5 years, it wouldn’t disengage. Decided not to spend £900 on it for this Cali.
You don’t see many California’s green laning.

But if you tow, especially a boat, it could be useful.
I think we paid about £500 for it, and of all the extras this was the one I was really in 2 minds about. Firstly will I ever need it; secondly it is another thing to go wrong. But it seems they are making a comeback even with vehicles like the new Disco. In the end It was a few comments on the T4/T5 forum which made my mind up. Actually I tell that it is working on my sand bank, it I power up the mound with it locked, it is very reluctant to turn at the top. I have to say there is a big chance we will never need it in anger...... I wouldn't mind spending 1/2 a day at an off road centre just to see what they can do; I think with the M&S tyres we both have, it might be quite surprising :whistle:
 
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I think we paid about £500 for it, and of all the extras this was the one I was really in 2 minds about. Firstly will I ever need it; secondly it is another thing to go wrong. But it seems they are making a comeback even with vehicles like the new Disco. In the end It was a few comments on the T4/T5 forum which made my mind up. Actually I tell that it is working on my sand bank, it I power up the mound with it locked, it is very reluctant to turn at the top. I have to say there is a big chance we will never need it in anger...... I wouldn't mind spending 1/2 a day at an off road centre just to see what they can do; I think with the M&S tyres we both have, it might be quite surprising :whistle:

Yep those Marks and Spencer tyres are great :D

My Outback has no diff lock, my old Jimny has no diff lock, both are awesome off road.

It’s a tricky one but Haldex is definitely a road biased 4wd system; diff lock can help where Haldex can fall over but in practise, we just don’t need it.

I only used diff lock once on our 110 Defender too but in that case it was useful.
 
Yep those Marks and Spencer tyres are great :D

My Outback has no diff lock, my old Jimny has no diff lock, both are awesome off road.

It’s a tricky one but Haldex is definitely a road biased 4wd system; diff lock can help where Haldex can fall over but in practise, we just don’t need it.

I only used diff lock once on our 110 Defender too but in that case it was useful.
You do really need the centre diff lock on defenders, otherwise 1 spinning wheel can cause problems that the esp may not be able to resolve. The haldex automatically locks the centre diff (kind of). I think where the rear axel diff-lock comes in on a T6 is where axel articulation lets you down on twisting or rutty ground; or were there is very different surface conditions LHS v RHS. Unlike the defender that has loads and loads of axel articulation.
 
Yep those Marks and Spencer tyres are great :D

My Outback has no diff lock, my old Jimny has no diff lock, both are awesome off road.

It’s a tricky one but Haldex is definitely a road biased 4wd system; diff lock can help where Haldex can fall over but in practise, we just don’t need it.

I only used diff lock once on our 110 Defender too but in that case it was useful.
You may have a LSD on your outback rear axel, and not even know
Locking rear diff - 1990 to Present Legacy, Impreza, Outback, Forester, Baja, WRX&WrxSTI, SVX
 

Whilst this is a volvo, I think the 4wd is pretty much the same, haldex centre diff etc.
When the volvo is on the rollers and dumplings, it really shows the need to rev the engine significantly to get the electronic diff lock system working. No rear axel diff lock on the volvo either. But there are stories of VW T5/T6 getting stuck without the rear diff-lock, and un-stuck when the button is pressed.
 
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I think it has a rear LSD and centre diff.
Both are automatically operated; there’s also a high and low range gearbox lever; while clearance is limited, it will go pretty much anywhere you point it.

Our mates XC90 got quite comically stuck on a grassy bank; the 4wd system just couldn’t handle the conditions. Quite funny as a FWD Caddy got up with no problems.

Again we use our Cali to get to spots others can’t but the 4wd for us is basically so it isn’t FWD; huge benefits on road from that.

Anyone that pushes a 2.65 tonne California hard enough off road to absolutely need a rear diff lock is either very rich or quite mad.

Definitely a soft roader.

Here’s a spot no other FWD van or car could get to; I can’t seem to host drop box photos so just a link;

Dropbox - Photo 16-08-2017, 3 12 31 pm.jpg
 
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This is the concern with the T5/T6 very limited axel articulation. I guess it would be the same if there was massively different terrain grip between the two back wheels
You mentioned the XC90 struggling on grass, I wonder if his haldex pump was knackered? Because essentially the Vw & Volvo systems are the same I think.
I wonder if he used more throttle in the video, the T5 would have made it; like the Volvo Vid
 
I know we have Haldex 5 or our T6s, but I wouldn't be surprised if failures are not displayed on the dash either.
Unfortunately you are right - our T6's won't indicate on the dash any way the loss of 4Motion :eek:. It just disconnects itself - zero power to rear wheels. Interesting, or confusing, thing is that restarting the engine made the 4Motion work again :speechless:. The same was true with my old T5.
1 Fault Found:
16668 - Pump for Haldex Clutch
C1112 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 200
Mileage: 32465 km
Date: 2017.11.23
Time: 15:56:32
 
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