AdBlue Discussion and Issues

So driving up to Southport today the adblue went from 3000 mile range to 650 with the famous no start warning! Again! We carried on driving and about 15 miles later it went to 600 miles , then after about another 40 miles it reset to 3000miles and no warnings. We got to our site and I topped up with 5litres of adblue and now its reading 5000 miles. Hopefully it will be fine for the rest of our 3 week holiday!! This is the 4 or 5th time a similar thing has happened and the 2nd time it's cleared itself. What a rubbish system the only thing that spoils the t6 experience.
Did you resolve this problem?
 
Did you resolve this problem?
Hi
What can I say the van is running ok at the moment the service centre updated the software and did an egr flush. To be honest I have not done big mileages since but things seem to be ok for the moment. Sadly I have limited confidence that its a permanent fix!
 
EML light came on yesterday. I've just done a VCDS scan and got a whole load of strange fault codes relating to adblue and EGR.
I've (hopefully) attached a copy of the scan.
I did have an issue last week approx 1100miles ago when i filled the adblue and forgot to wait for the reset. However it reset after a few minutes of driving and had no issues on a 10 day drive round scotland-hence the 1100 miles in a week.
I've reset everything and been for a little spin and none have returned.
It appears that these codes were logged approx 1500 miles ago, which i find strange.
Any suggestions?
 

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This sounds very familiar. I was advised to get an EGR flush. This didn’t work. Apparently it’s very common. Ended up with a replaced EGR. This resolved all the fault codes. Been running well for last 4000 miles.
 
This sounds very familiar. I was advised to get an EGR flush. This didn’t work. Apparently it’s very common. Ended up with a replaced EGR. This resolved all the fault codes. Been running well for last 4000 miles.
Yeah, I had an egr flush under warranty last June. Out of warranty now. But if new egr sorts it then I’m happy to do it. Just don’t want to be throwing money at stuff that doesn’t need doing only for the fault to remain.
 
It appears that these codes were logged approx 1500 miles ago, which i find strange.
15560 - EGR Sensor 1 - P046C 00 [108] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 178158 km
This has happened only once - at 178158 km.



33744 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy - P220A 00 [096] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 13
Mileage: 178096 km
The fault has happened 13 times - first time at 178096 km. I believe the frequency counter is incremented by "1" per ignition cycle.


32203 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy -P220A 00 [108] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 19
Mileage: 177715 km


31133 - Reductant Level Sensor - P203B 00 [040] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 47
Mileage: 178031 km


31131 - Reductant Tank Temperature Sensor - P205B 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 20
Mileage: 178038 km


The last two faults have happened very long time ago - because there is no freeze frame data any more.

31159 - Control Circuit for Reductant Pump 2 - P20FB 00 [096] - Mechanical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

30540 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) - P0121 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear



I think the only concerns are the ones with high fault frequency.
There is a mention about Voltage supply malfunction...
Then the reductant sensors can be read by VCDS... as well as the NOx sensor...
 
Mines still buggered, I just ignore adblue reading now. What will be will be, just top it up now and again
 
15560 - EGR Sensor 1 - P046C 00 [108] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 178158 km
This has happened only once - at 178158 km.



33744 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy - P220A 00 [096] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 13
Mileage: 178096 km
The fault has happened 13 times - first time at 178096 km. I believe the frequency counter is incremented by "1" per ignition cycle.


32203 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy -P220A 00 [108] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 19
Mileage: 177715 km


31133 - Reductant Level Sensor - P203B 00 [040] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 47
Mileage: 178031 km


31131 - Reductant Tank Temperature Sensor - P205B 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Fault Frequency: 20
Mileage: 178038 km


The last two faults have happened very long time ago - because there is no freeze frame data any more.

31159 - Control Circuit for Reductant Pump 2 - P20FB 00 [096] - Mechanical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

30540 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) - P0121 00 [032] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear



I think the only concerns are the ones with high fault frequency.
There is a mention about Voltage supply malfunction...
Then the reductant sensors can be read by VCDS... as well as the NOx sensor...
Thanks @mmi.
What are your thoughts?
Monitor and see if there’s any reoccurrence?
Funny how the EML only came on yesterday, otherwise I’d never have known about these fault codes.
 
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Just thinking back and a few weeks ago, probs about the right mileage for the above fault log, the EML came on after a few interrupted regens.
Took it for a blast up the motorway and it did a full long regen. Refuelled it and the light went off-never did a scan.
I wonder if it’s thrown the EML this week when the counter for the fault has reached a certain number if it’s happened again. Her indoors has been driving it to work and back this week.
She’s just driven the 16 mile rural/urban mix to work this morning and no light.
I’ll scan it again tomorrow and see if anything has reoccurred and pop an update on here.
 
Thanks @mmi.
What are your thoughts?
Monitor and see if there’s any reoccurrence?
Certainly a good idea to keep on monitoring - to speed up the fault scan you could do engine only:
VCDS > Select Control Module > Engine > Fault Codes > Save Codes

As you have cleared the fault memory I'm curious to see how soon the emission status (PASS) will be restored.
I'm assuming currently it wouldn't pass MOT because of cleared fault memory.
The emission status can be seen as follows:
VCDS > OBD-II Functions > Mode 1-01 Readiness > Address 7E8 > Save
Could you please post the log.

Should be similar as below except not all as "Passed"

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Certainly a good idea to keep on monitoring - to speed up the fault scan you could do engine only:
VCDS > Select Control Module > Engine > Fault Codes > Save Codes

As you have cleared the fault memory I'm curious to see how soon the emission status (PASS) will be restored.
I'm assuming currently it wouldn't pass MOT because of cleared fault memory.
The emission status can be seen as follows:
VCDS > OBD-II Functions > Mode 1-01 Readiness > Address 7E8 > Save
Could you please post the log.

Should be similar as below except not all as "Passed"

View attachment 147732
Will do. It’ll be tomorrow now as she’s taken it to work and we are out tonight.
 
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@mmi I’ve done the obd 11 thing but when I press save it wouldn’t save it. So here is a photo.D4D24DD0F-AA12-4A2F-953A-EC9ED2E0BF8A.jpeg
Done 16miles twice today.
Also a scan of the engine shows the faults have returned but without throwing an EML.

Edit:- the obd2 data is on the scan log 13 times. Now I know where it went when I kept clicking save.
 

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I have only used vcds twice but looking at the pic above - maybe it won't save because it is still running diagnosis.
 
Edit:- the obd2 data is on the scan log 13 times. Now I know where it went when I kept clicking save.
:thumbsup: Thank you very much. I'm expecting the "failed" ones to return to "Passed" fairly soon. The fail is because of clearing the fault memory - actually here the meaning is "Adaptation cycle incomplete".

Anyways, for now I'd ignore the P046C (see the bolded below)

15560 - EGR Sensor 1 - P046C 00 [100] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 180512 km
Date: 2058.01.05
Time: 17:20:40
Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 89 °C
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Specified value: 5.43 %
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Actual value: -6.23 %
It has been suggested this alone (no other EGR related fault) needs no action. Anyways, around Forum there are quite a few mentions about this fault but no definite explanation yet. Anyways here the big delta between specified and actual value might be an early indication of something... or perhaps not :speechless: At shut-off engine sweeps EGR valve a few times from min to max.
Was Stop/Start in use - did it shut off the engine?

The same kind of event logged also here:

A related VCDS test plotted here:


The other one probably needs attention. Can you estimate how long the van was driven (since engine start) at 16:09:08 (odometer 112183 miles) - possibly about 10-15 minutes? (That's when NOx measurement kicks in) - just curious :geek:

32203 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy
P220A 00 [096] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 180542 km
Date: 2058.01.06
Time: 16:09:08
 
:thumbsup: Thank you very much. I'm expecting the "failed" ones to return to "Passed" fairly soon. The fail is because of clearing the fault memory - actually here the meaning is "Adaptation cycle incomplete".

Anyways, for now I'd ignore the P046C (see the bolded below)

15560 - EGR Sensor 1 - P046C 00 [100] - Implausible Signal
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 180512 km
Date: 2058.01.05
Time: 17:20:40
Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 89 °C
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Specified value: 5.43 %
Exhaust recirc.valve 1 bank 1: posit.feedback - Actual value: -6.23 %
It has been suggested this alone (no other EGR related fault) needs no action. Anyways, around Forum there are quite a few mentions about this fault but no definite explanation yet. Anyways here the big delta between specified and actual value might be an early indication of something... or perhaps not :speechless: At shut-off engine sweeps EGR valve a few times from min to max.
Was Stop/Start in use - did it shut off the engine?

The same kind of event logged also here:

A related VCDS test plotted here:


The other one probably needs attention. Can you estimate how long the van was driven (since engine start) at 16:09:08 (odometer 112183 miles) - possibly about 10-15 minutes? (That's when NOx measurement kicks in) - just curious :geek:

32203 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1 Voltage Suppy
P220A 00 [096] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Mileage: 180542 km
Date: 2058.01.06
Time: 16:09:08
So 112192 was arrival home on a 16 mile commute, so 112183 was 7 miles into the journey so probs about 15 minutes in traffic. She says she left work at 1550hrs.
Talking to the dotty Doris she states start/stop activated once, and from her description it was probably about the 2 mile mark into her journey, which is probably between 5 and 10 minutes.
 
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Hi, @mmi just a quick update.
I rescanned this morning and the same fault codes are there.
Also, as you predicted, all the fields have changed to 'passed' in the OBD 11 scan.
No EML though.
 

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