i cant find a link to the previous post . . . . . . can you? (wasnt it ctek to orion victron? swap)
so just to clear things up . . .
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we are talking about..
using the fitted solar panels to charge up the starter battery via the Victron MPPT solar controller 24/7. . . . . which will keep the starter topped up in sunny conditions . . .
Then using a DC-DC charger to charge the leisure battery, which would normally be done when driving, but in this instance with the engine and ignition OFF as well as ON. (24/7 scenario)
This was first via his CTEK D250 DC-DC but has now been swapped out to a Victron Orion 12/12/30(?) DC-DC charger . . . .
The original issue may have been that the DC-DC charger would NOT kick in with the ignition switch OFF, but in this case the setup allows the DC-DC to start charging automatically (kinda VSR style) with the ability to tweek the charge profiles of the Victron MPPT and Victron DC-DC.
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so @Lowlec
can you tell us your Victron MPPT & DC-DC thresholds/settings on your setup pls? (preferably some screen shots of Victron connect APP also?)
and confirm is this is a temporary setup while the van is off the road? or if its a permanent solution?
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This could be a good solution for some people,
I agree that there will be come efficiency losses going from Solar>MPPT>Starter>DC-DC>Leisure Battery, instead of Solar>MPPT>Leisure (but these would be negated during summer with better weather)
This work around will aslo be specific to equipment, as some DC-DC WILL start AUTO CHARGING with a high enough starter battery voltage . . . . BUT . . . . some DC-DC units WILL-NOT Auto charge when set to stop/start mode and using the BCM run/ignition feed.
One option to get around the above ignition feed maybe to set the DC-DC to standard EU5 mode and let it auto stop start during summer/sunny times but switch it back to Eu6 mode during winter months?
Just installed and configured my Victron gsm,so now have full control of the MPPT,BMV,eberspacher heater,and geofencing on the van from anywhere in the world!
can you post some pics of you setup over here . . . (it looks like a good one =) )
especially the GSM part.
re: What Solar Panel/controller Dc-dc Leisure Battery - Have You Got ?
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Copy & Paste the below to add your setup:
Solar Panel:120w monocrystlyne
Mobile Panel:100w lensun
Solar charge controller:2 x Victron 75/15
DC-DC charger:Victron Orion smart 12/12 30
EHU Charger:
battery bank:
Battery Monitor:Victron Bmv 712
Inverter:
other:
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yes matedid you use this one ?
GX GSM - Victron Energy
Provide a mobile internet for the system and connect to the VRM Portal using the GX-GSM. Find a Victron Energy dealer near you.www.victronenergy.com
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lets see the setup pls . . .Just installed and configured my Victron gsm,so now have full control of the MPPT,BMV,eberspacher heater,and geofencing on the van from anywhere in the world!
I’m a Victron installer,so I’ve used a Venus gx I don’t go down the route of raspberI pi as I get very good discount on Victron kit,because I’m using the gsm as a tracker for my van,(which sends me an alert when van is more 30 Mtrs from my house and clears when back on the drive)I’ve gone out of my way to conceal it,because I’ve fitted a remote gsm and gps Ariel up in my pop top to remotely conceal the gsm unit,what I’m working on now is a 12v dump load water heater to use up any excess solar power,by 9:30 every morning my batteries are sitting in float and my solar panel is doing nothing,so with the logics built into the Venus,once my battery is up to 100% the water heater will kick in heat my water based on several conditions,I’ve tried a basic crude method and it works.so work in progresslets see the setup pls . . .
are you using a raspberi pi like me for the VenusOS?
with VEDirect USB cables from the MPPT + BMV etc?
I've added the Victron VenusOS guide for doing it with a Raspberi Pi over here > Solar Sheds & Other Non-t6 Solar Projects - How We Done It -
I've now added a second Raspberi-Pi and tested on wifi too (shed one was on LAN cable connection) , so you can use the vans wifi or look into the GX GSM above
As per my previous post,you can use this streetlight function in reverse to charge your starter battery from the load terminals!Very nice....
Streetlights setting in mttp that switches load output on when it get dark right? ... then ur lights connected to load OP?
Love victron kit =)
So, attached my MPPT Battery out to the alternator in on the CTEK. Initially, the voltage seemed to be the same across both batteries with a load being drawn off the leisure battery. Next day, all seemed to calmed down and the starter is showing at 12.2v and leisure at 13.3v with no load being pulled off either according to the BMV. Going to monitor over the next few weeks see what happens to the starter voltage.
Next mod....when plugged into EHU green led illuminates the dummy esp switch in the dash,to confirm your still connected and don’t drive off!.got 230/12v power supply under passenger seat,so when 230v present switch illuminates as my hook up point is under the bonnet.Very nice....
Streetlights setting in mttp that switches load output on when it get dark right? ... then ur lights connected to load OP?
Love victron kit =)
keep us posted . . . . any pics or screen shots you can show us?So, attached my MPPT Battery out to the alternator in on the CTEK. Initially, the voltage seemed to be the same across both batteries with a load being drawn off the leisure battery. Next day, all seemed to calmed down and the starter is showing at 12.2v and leisure at 13.3v with no load being pulled off either according to the BMV. Going to monitor over the next few weeks see what happens to the starter voltage.
Hah - great mod, and I don’t know if that was by chance or not but I like the choice of switch, too.Next mod....when plugged into EHU green led illuminates the dummy esp switch in the dash,to confirm your still connected and don’t drive off!.got 230/12v power supply under passenger seat,so when 230v present switch illuminates as my hook up point is under the bonnet.
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Have you increased the float voltage in the MPPT through the App?....
you need to increase the float voltage to offset the voltage drop/losses of the target battery!,the target battery is now the starter battery which in turn is on the end of approx 8mtrs of cable!(the cable that links the Ctek to the starter battery).
obviously I don’t know what battery you have!,this is what I was referring to at the beginning of this thread,when I mentioned ‘tweaking’ the values of the MPPT.
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So, these are my battery setting connected to the starter battery which is a AGM 85Ah. Below is the BMV output. Solar says the battery is in float but 12.23v sounds low to be in float? Should be more 13v like the leisure's 13.36volts?
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Have you got a pic of your setup,something’s not right,Your voltage outPut (battery) on the MPPT is the same on the leisure battery,this voltage should be Showing on the starter battery!
What’s connected & drawing current through your load output terminals on the MPPT?