DCC (Dynamic Chassis Control) Retrofit

Hi Simon

The only comment I can make is B16 is a coil over ( actually a sleeve over which is a cheat way to do coil over but result is similar ). It can’t do standard height I think 40 to 70 mm as long as the van isn’t heavy , if it’s a camper or 4 motion it most certainly will,go much lower which will compromise the ride a lot considering the B16 isn’t that much shorter than standard shocks . The springs in the kit won’t carry weight well either as the springs look exactly the same as the original B14 which have proved to be very problematic in heavy vans as well.

What I was suggesting is nothing like this , It isn’t a coil over kit and it isn’t new springs it uses the original ones and it doesn’t work in lowered cars or vans anyway , £1000 for a set of shocks isn’t cheap by any stretch ! It’s our most expensive shock actually , we do have kits that run up to 2500 quid , but they don’t sell well at all as they aren’t good value for money. Our main kit prices run from £1295 to £1500 ,
The dampers I refer to have variable rebound valve that senses fast shaft speeds and softens up when hi speed shaft movements are detected. Simple self controlling and always in the right mode .,.
The DCC in sport mode will be really hard on poor roads and if your van would be lower than 50 mm ( I would say this will be the highest your will get it). , the ride will be suboptimal . You will probably have to leave it in sport to offer high damper forces to control the lack of suspension travel , ?.


What you would like to achieve is what every damper design engineer wants. In reality it isn’t as good as you would think.

The active dampers ( Koni FSD frequency selective dampers ). Are factory fitted to a lot of well known Hi performance vehicles like. Aston Martin, Lamborghini , McLaren SLR to name a few . These are sporty cars. But owners still demand some levels of comfort. That is what FSD dampers. Do , offer hi levels of performance / and comfort .

I would be asking who ever is supplying these parts if they guarantee money back if you aren’t completely happy , this could be an expensive exercise for you.
I am not trying to interfere with this project but I just wanted you to see another side and option with a more sensible price and performance. , I didn’t realise you wanted quite low however like the B16 will do . We could not offer you FSD at 50 60 or even 70 mm which the B16 does .)

We have been fitting. Transporters out with hi quality suspension systems for 6 years in UK ( over 4500 of them ) and we have seen pretty much everything , I have never come across this kit however , . I have never spoken to anyone who uses one either . So my comments are based on my experience in the industry , 30 years of racing cars and building suspension systems for road and race applications. We have plenty of experience with the B14 kits as we have removed loads of them due to poor performance and comfort in transporters and the Audi RS market. (Which we are also well known in ).

One other point. Dampers control the weight of the wheel,tyre and brakes. We call this unsprung weight , they control the spring frequency cause by bumps in the road and try to resist its movement in a controlled way. increases in weight in the van as Load or many passengers isn’t a reason to stiffen the shocks, ideally a stronger spring would do this but it simply isn’t feasible to change spring rates all the time like we do in race applications. If you load the van and it’s sitting a lot lower, the stiffer valving ( Sport mode ) will cause the van to jack down ( caused by hi damper forces ) on to the suspension again making the ride less than perfect as it will bottom out on the bump stops .

Can’t wait to hear how you get on with this and I wish you all the luck with it ,
Ps. If you have more concerns or questions , and I can help please let me know. .
Thank you,

Very informative, I know where to come if my plan / project doesn't work out!

Apologies for any offence, I may have caused with my ignorance.
Thought initially you were someone trying to flog me suspension.
I have since done more reading on the forum and the kits you provide and your business is very highly regarded.

Cheers
Simon
 
Thank you,

Very informative, I know where to come if my plan / project doesn't work out!

Apologies for any offence, I may have caused with my ignorance.
Thought initially you were someone trying to flog me suspension.
I have since done more reading on the forum and the kits you provide and your business is very highly regarded.

Cheers
Simon
Honestly i am not a fan of the Bilstein shocks for transporters ( everyone on the forum knows this ) their sub contractor who builds the kits for them in Germany aren't suspension engineers and havent a clue in my humble opinion , The B14 parts dont appear on the Bilstein Web site because of this ,, The B16 i think does appear on their web site ( it looks just like the \B14 however , Sleeve over style ) so i am not sure who builds these kits to be honest . What i am not convinced About is how well the adjustments Sport , normal and comfort can function as they do in a standard Caravelle when the B16 kit could potentially carry the van too low .( Travel on the shocks drastically reduced )

The only experience i have with this is once we lowered a Caravelle fitted with these DCC shocks , client and i found it better to drive in sport all the time because in comfort the shocks were too soft AND bottomed out ?? this was only a 40 mm drop the B16 kit will do much lower than this . |??|

I do 70 to 100 Transporter vans a month and refit suspension to them all . I am convinced that the cost of doing what you want to do will be well over £2500.00 .and i cant see this as a value for money / performance benefit .

I truly hope i am wrong , i would like to hear how you get on .

I am equally well known for not being a pushy sales person and often talk people out of stuff if i think they are making a mistake ha ha .

good luck
 
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