Yeah, I mean, I guess at that point they won't have any value either...
Future Of Diesel Engines.
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Haha.. seems reasonable to be fair, I don't miss the choke either ...
I agree, but if you look hard enough there is usually a safe place to park.
This is my favoured space at my local Asda.
Work took me all over too. San Paulo was quite bad. Similar population to Mexico, but they built skyscrapers rather than urban sprawl. Never saw so many private helicopter (or helicopter taxis) before. Delhi was worse than Munbai (at least I could have the driver take the costal route there!) I think my colleagues in China had the bragging rights on pollution though.
Unfortunately, planning regulations allow them to build “garages” against the Hillman Imp spec too, not just draw parking spaces.
Petrol mpg on a long motorway run is high 20s, LPG a bit less. But then LPG is about half the cost.
Hi Newbie alert! Can't see any discussion on the future of van life regarding green issues.
I am looking at buying a 2/3-year-old van or maybe new, but unlike my father in law who bought his type 2 new in 1972 and handed it down his son, are the more modern vans that are not classics yet going to be obsolete or hard to use due to the price or scarcity of fuel? With the push towards electric, I can't see myself handing my keys over to my son or daughter.
Buying a vw is a big investment, so before I take the plunge, I would like to hear other's thoughts.
Apologies if this topic has already been discussed, just couldn't find anything.
thanks
I am looking at buying a 2/3-year-old van or maybe new, but unlike my father in law who bought his type 2 new in 1972 and handed it down his son, are the more modern vans that are not classics yet going to be obsolete or hard to use due to the price or scarcity of fuel? With the push towards electric, I can't see myself handing my keys over to my son or daughter.
Buying a vw is a big investment, so before I take the plunge, I would like to hear other's thoughts.
Apologies if this topic has already been discussed, just couldn't find anything.
thanks
It's hard to make predictions because since the invention of the internal combustion engine the only relevant legislation that has been passed has been to make them less environmentally harmful and safer in a collision. So 20 years ago it was easy to predict that legislation would continue to make vehicles cleaner and safer.
Banning the sale of new ICE vehicles from 2030 is totally without precedent and as a result it is hard to confidently predict how this will affect the future of the vans we drive today. I agree that it is likely that fuel duty increases will make it difficult or financially impossible to continue to use our ICE vehicles soon after 2030, but you could buy a T6 tomorrow and get at least 8 years use out of it if that's the case.
Decisions decisions.......
Oh, this is a tough one. To maintain a modern van for a long time take a lot of effort, care and doubtless a lump of money. Quite simply, the old adage “they don’t make ‘em like they used to” holds true across modern motoring, not just VWs. The risk of no fuel being available is much like the transition away from leaded petrol - a way will be found! Remember, if you worry too much about what might happen, you’d never get up every morning!
Buy a van for you, not for your kids.
The deadline for diesel will just keep getting pushed back and back as the infrastructure is going to take decades to put in place. I reckon I’ll be driving around in a diesel van for at least another 20 years, get out there and enjoy it.
The deadline for diesel will just keep getting pushed back and back as the infrastructure is going to take decades to put in place. I reckon I’ll be driving around in a diesel van for at least another 20 years, get out there and enjoy it.
Hi …The death of Diesel in Nigh…. But imagine a future that allows you to remove the dirty diesel and replace with an electric motor….Yes it’s already happening….but as time goes on so does advances in technology…so I’m holding on to the hope that I can convert in the future years…might have to make a few Mods but Van life is about change 
There will be a booming market for electric conversion kits as we get closer and technology improves. These are already out there, but in their infancy.
You could lease for a while, but you’ll pay more and still have nothing to show for your money.
Definitely overthinking imho.
You could lease for a while, but you’ll pay more and still have nothing to show for your money.
Definitely overthinking imho.
Regardless of any green issues I doubt that many T6s or really any other modern vans are destined to become appreciating assets or family heirlooms. They are just far more complicated compared to older vehicles In 20 years when things break I think it'll get harder and harder to find replacements and lots of them are far beyond what a skilled machinist or small scale manufacturer would be able to achieve.
If you want something to hand over to your children, buy art, jewellery, land, books.... in fact practically anything in preference to a vehicle based on a soon to be obsolete drivechain and a load of tech that will seem comically out of date within a decade. On the other hand, if you want something to get from A to B, transport people/bikes/kit, go camping, explore the country, probably best buy a van because art/jewellery/land/books don't generally do that too well.
Taking a wider view, I'd say the thing you really want to hand over to your kids is memories and experiences, and I'd argue a van, and especially a camper van, will do that if you take it to the right places with the right people...
Taking a wider view, I'd say the thing you really want to hand over to your kids is memories and experiences, and I'd argue a van, and especially a camper van, will do that if you take it to the right places with the right people...
I'm not convinced about electric conversion kits. I believe it will be a kit to swap to hydrogen, I'm pretty sure Toyota are on the path with this development.
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