None of this is a surprise really is it.......?
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T6.1 new order delays
Is that Ascot Grey? Candy White. Maybe my camera is colourblind :)
Not sure about that TBH. If I have 21 days to accept or walk away from now, then this would contradict clause 4, shown below, which says I have to collect in the next 14 days. To me, this gives weight to the interpretation that the dealer should have informed me before this point.
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T6.1 new order delays
Is that Ascot Grey? Candy White. Maybe my camera is colourblind :)
He knew in March there was increase and potentially more.......
I don't get the logic that says "because there may be further price rises, we can't tell the customer about this confirmed price rise".
Are you crazy?
You said the dealer told you in march last year!
Just had the same call from the same dealer. They reckoned the net increase for me currently stands at "...between £1,200 and £1,300, plus VAT...", and that "...there's a high probability of another price increase next month" (percentage unknown).
I was offered the option to walk away, but having recently dropped a £10k deposit for a camper conversion, that wasn't an offer I could contemplate. (I might even take this opportunity to add an extra I overlooked at order).
Fellow Yorkshireman here too. I agree with you that there's leverage there and think you should take it up with them. To me, it's explicit that they shall inform you and implicit that they would do this before the RRP changes (...the RRP for the goods shall be increased...). If the costs went up over a year ago and they're only telling you now, just prior to delivery, I'd say that gives you leverage. I'm not a lawyer but have been responsible for writing, negotiating and agreeing contracts for my company for nearly 20 years. It doesn't matter what has been said on a forum or even discussed in trade news because the only relevant entities in the T&Cs are the SELLER and the PURCHASER. I.e. they have a duty to tell you directly.
BTW - How sure are you that the price increase is from Dec 21 and not Dec 22? Could it be a slip of the keyboard from them?
Edit: just seen the latest post from Mk2Golf24v - they told you in March '22 about the increase? If so, can't see the leverage.
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The Ts & Cs specifically state "the Seller shall give notice... to the purchaser". Pretty sure "give notice" has a specific, legal meaning that does not rely upon hearsay and ongoing public discussions.None of this is a surprise really is it.......?
T6.1 new order delays
Is that Ascot Grey? Candy White. Maybe my camera is colourblind :)
On you go then, pursure the dealer and VW through the courts...... Let us know how you get on, with no van and lawyers fees.
I think you're missing the point here, I don't think @Bav was ever going to go as far as solicitors and court, but the fact the dealers didn't communicate the price increases in a timely manner gives a him a reasonable point of discussion, at least in my opinion.
They did, but I'd already paid my deposit to the converter by that point (so it was already too late) and the range they quoted was significantly less than they're now saying they want.
They would need to notify you in writing (or email) each time the RRP changes. A small range (you mention a range of £100 in your March post) would, I imagine, be an acceptable form of increase notification. Did they write to you again notifying you of the second increase? If they did, my opinion is they kept to their side of the T&Cs and you won't have much if any leverage in your conversations with them.
Mine went up £4507 which is a big chunk of change, hit the roof wrote to dealer and VW customer services complete waste of time the out come was its the VW brand that puts the cost up either pay up or walkaway……
After 15 months of waiting its not good and took the shine off the hole experience..
Until I had the first drive….
After 15 months of waiting its not good and took the shine off the hole experience..
Until I had the first drive….
I see. So they waited from March '22 til Jan '23 to inform you of the extra £1k? Maybe you do have leverage to argue away the extra £1k. Them just saying 'high chance of another rise' without quantifying it, and then waiting 9 months to tell you - yeah, I'd insist on seeing your contact at the dealer face-to-face and argue that £1k away on the basis that they haven't stuck to their side of the bargain in terms of timely notification of RRP increase.
BTW I think your angle about having put a deposit down at the converters is potentially something you don't mention to the dealers - I can't see how it helps you. Your angle should be that they're at fault for not notifying you and the conversion company story just clouds that issue imo.
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