MOT: which class?
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My T32 SWB had its first MoT this morning.
It passed, class 4.
It passed, class 4.
Dvsa in the last year put out a notice regarding this and they can be tested as a large class 4 as long as it’s satisfied that it’s a motor caravan they can ask for proof as in the v5 so it’s a tricky one and still catches some people out
Interesting point.
Now that DVLA do not change the V5 on conversion to camper how does it stand?
I have a T32 LWB 4M DSG that has Van with Windows on V5.
It is in process of being converted to camper, so next year when MOT is due, is it a class 4?
I think it depends if it has had an mot before conversion but I'm not totally sure. If it has already had an mot it should have been class 7 and it will therefore always be 7 even after conversion. If it hasn't had an mot before conversion, it will be presented as a motor caravan at its first mot and therefore class 4.
thanks
It is so complicated.
It may be a benefit that I am doing conversion before first MOT.
Hi bought last week 2019 T32 Kombi Mass in service 2164kg. I was so confused with all the posts on here that I went to MOT garage to ask. I was told they class that as a class 4 because the kombi has 5 seats and 4 doors 4 side windows and rear window as well. So they call it MPV doesn’t matter that in V5 is LGV. Hope this helps.
Interesting. Sometimes MOT stations also get it wrong though or assume the weight is below 2040kg. Did you specifically point out to them that the weight was over 2040kg?
I still firmly believe that a kombi with an unladen weight of over 2040kg must be a class 7 test unless is is a 'motor caravan'.
Yes absolutely I have shown them my V5 as my main reason was not which MOT class it’s but my tires as the VW dealer fitted 275/35r20 102Y. Due to many post on this forum I was worried that 102 rated is wrong for the T32! They have confirmed it’s class 4 because of the reasons given, and they have no problem with 102 rated even if that was class 7 they allow 10% for weight ratio discrepancy. This wasn’t any back street garage, they do MOT for all classes and even accepted by local district council for taxis and private hire vehicles MOT! Then I also went to specialist tire garage to ask if the tires are good, they have confirmed yes all good as the 275/35r20 102 rated is the highest level in this class and again there’s 10% allowed for weight ratio.
The government’s own MOT website is totally explicit that the tyres must be rated to carry the full axle rating load. For a T32, this is equivalent to a 103 tyre rating, unless the vehicle has been downplated.
MOT inspection manual: cars and passenger vehicles - Appendix B: Tyre load index tables - Guidance - GOV.UK
Tyre load rating and exceptions, and tyre load index tables for single wheel and dual wheel configurations for car and passenger vehicle MOT tests.
I’d love to see where this 10% tolerance the garage is talking about comes from.
Well that what they said. I can only recommend if unsure go an ask yourself. In the end if I can get MOT garage and different tires garage confirmed that 102 is ok I’m satisfied. I’m not mechanic or MOT technician maybe you’re I don’t know.
If you use simple logic that the tire is under rated by 1.2% only!!! 1720kg axle so 1720-1.2%=1699.36kg!
If you use simple logic that the tire is under rated by 1.2% only!!! 1720kg axle so 1720-1.2%=1699.36kg!
I'm not sure what you are calculating there but a 102 tyre is rated to 850kg, so you are 20kg short. There is no tolerance or discretion, the tyre must be rated higher than half the axle max loading.
Look I’m not here to make arguments, all I can say what I have learned today from guys who do the job for living. As I said the best if someone is unsure to go and ask for yourself.
No-one thinks you are hear to argue. After all it is you that has satisfy yourself about what is right or not, by whatever means you choose.
I choose to read the legislation and the official MOT testers manual published by VDSA to satisfy myself. I will only put 103 or higher rated tyres on my T32 and I will expect it to be tested as class 7 unless someone gives me a very good reason why not.
Your view is different to mine and that's fine.
Strange one for me today as our Shuttle is M class and MPV stated in V5 so was assuming class 4 like our old T5 shuttle however it seems that DVLA site automatically class it as Class 7 due to weight over 3000kg. The garage cant do class 7 sadly. Our old T5 was a SWB so maybe the LWB take it over that. Bit annoying.
Even the tester said he had done others similar before so was surprised. Phone the dealer and they said due to weight its class 7 so it seems still a grey area.
Even the tester said he had done others similar before so was surprised. Phone the dealer and they said due to weight its class 7 so it seems still a grey area.
