Planar Night-Heaters.
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As above, the 'standard 'timer is called a CP-27 (or PU-27 which I think is the same) Control Panel which is what I've got (you can get a copy of the manual on the Planar website were:https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/72...U27 EN OperMan v01.2018.pdf?ver=1570640392814 .
I did consider the app controlled version mentioned by John but discounted it as I believe that it also needs a SIM card to work.
John, I would however be interested in your experience and also what SIM card you use in yours as I might decide to upgrade at some point and I'm also looking at SIM cards for a potential purchase of a GPS tracker. Cheers.
I did consider the app controlled version mentioned by John but discounted it as I believe that it also needs a SIM card to work.
John, I would however be interested in your experience and also what SIM card you use in yours as I might decide to upgrade at some point and I'm also looking at SIM cards for a potential purchase of a GPS tracker. Cheers.
Morning AJ
Modem does indeed need a SIM card, planar fitter had one ready for me, giffgaff one, all I had to do was register it online and put some credit on it, £10, lasts for ages. Great to be able to switch the heater on whilst out walking or from them breakfast table!
Modem does indeed need a SIM card, planar fitter had one ready for me, giffgaff one, all I had to do was register it online and put some credit on it, £10, lasts for ages. Great to be able to switch the heater on whilst out walking or from them breakfast table!
John, Thanks for that. It's interesting as I was always under the impression that Giffgaff air time always expires after a month - indeed, I just had a look at the website again and it only seems to mention their 'goody bags' which do exactly that. Do you buy a particular 'goody bag' or just a £10 credit?
Hi AJ, no, just credit not a goody bag. I had the last one running for months and months on end and never had credit run out.
You can buy a kit with a bracket that fits under the van with the air intake in the drivers step and heat outlet exiting to the rear of the van behind the rear seat or under it exiting through the rear of the drivers seat base. There is also an option to buy the plastics from a California and have the heat exit from the B pillar.
If you pocket is deep enough you can buy the genuine VW mounting bracket and extra under shield. I did it once on a T5 along with the genuine drivers step parts but the price is prohibitive for what it achieves over the after market bracket etc. as above.
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Hi did you fit that planar 2d underfloor?
Did you use b pillar option as described in.
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They have some good videos, but they are european vehicles LHD, so i an wondering if installation is same for RHD.
Whats the experience like?
RHD is the same as far as the mechanics of the heater are concerned although I wonder why they don't fit the metering pump in the normal position on the left side. Maybe the kit does not come with a long enough wiring loom for it to be placed that side.
The kit looks good, a solid bracket with all the mounting holes for the various pipes and clips etc. There is a different fuel pick-up pipe supplied by various firms here in the UK that fit into the original pump assembly in the tank but having a flexible pipe inside the tank. The old fashioned stand pipe fitted direct into the tank is less used nowadays. As it says you can only use s 'T' piece if you have a coolant heater already fitted you cannot fit a 'T' piece into the engine diesel feed as it is already under pressure from the primary pump in the tank.
Fitting the size of 'riv-nuts' shown does require a robust tool like the one shown not the basic one supplied with many kits here in the UK.
The pictures don't show where the exhaust exits the plastic shields but VW exit it towards the centre of the vehicle unlike many converters who extend it to poke out under the right side. Maybe the VW way is because inherently there would be a sliding door there on LHD vehicles.
Other than the above observations I can see no problem at all with the kit @Owain links above.
The kit looks good, a solid bracket with all the mounting holes for the various pipes and clips etc. There is a different fuel pick-up pipe supplied by various firms here in the UK that fit into the original pump assembly in the tank but having a flexible pipe inside the tank. The old fashioned stand pipe fitted direct into the tank is less used nowadays. As it says you can only use s 'T' piece if you have a coolant heater already fitted you cannot fit a 'T' piece into the engine diesel feed as it is already under pressure from the primary pump in the tank.
Fitting the size of 'riv-nuts' shown does require a robust tool like the one shown not the basic one supplied with many kits here in the UK.
The pictures don't show where the exhaust exits the plastic shields but VW exit it towards the centre of the vehicle unlike many converters who extend it to poke out under the right side. Maybe the VW way is because inherently there would be a sliding door there on LHD vehicles.
Other than the above observations I can see no problem at all with the kit @Owain links above.
Pump wiring loom is massively long, I have about 3m coiled up under the plastics as you invalidate the warranty if you shorten it. Heater off side pump mounted in front of the tank near side.
I don't know why there is any worry over where the pump is situated - STC Webasto values, Planar are not going to be much different.
Parameter Value
Length of intake pipe l1 [m] max. 5
Length of pressure pipe l2 [m] max. 10
Length of intake pipe l1 + length of pressure pipe l2 [m] max. 12
Height difference between heater and fuel pump
(heater above fuel pump) H2 [m] max. 3
Height difference between heater and fuel pump
(heater below fuel pump) S2 [m] max. 1
Parameter Value
Length of intake pipe l1 [m] max. 5
Length of pressure pipe l2 [m] max. 10
Length of intake pipe l1 + length of pressure pipe l2 [m] max. 12
Height difference between heater and fuel pump
(heater above fuel pump) H2 [m] max. 3
Height difference between heater and fuel pump
(heater below fuel pump) S2 [m] max. 1
Just halfway through my Planar 2D installation today as it happens. Although it was bloody freezing outside under the van up here today.
It’s a standard under the van on the drivers side with a stainless steel bracket. Footstep inlet back of drivers seat base outlet. Fitted a Webasto 60mm joining tube under the seat to make the run into the cab neater.
Have fitted my metering pump on the forward heater mounting bolt which lines up neatly with in and out feed pipes.
Although this is against the Planar instructions which say the pump should be less than 1m from the pick up.
Have seen many pumps mounted close to the unit like this and don’t think it will be a problem.
Also this means the metering pump cable can be about 20cm long so I have trimmed it to length without regard for the warranty. Bit daft to drive round with 4 meters of fuel pump wiring tied up under the van.
Have also shortened the power supply loom as it was also over 4 meters long.
Anyone know why Planar fuse both sides of the power cable?
It was fitted with a 25amp fuse on live and return.
If anyone wants a photo of how it’s gone in I could get one tomorrow
It’s a standard under the van on the drivers side with a stainless steel bracket. Footstep inlet back of drivers seat base outlet. Fitted a Webasto 60mm joining tube under the seat to make the run into the cab neater.
Have fitted my metering pump on the forward heater mounting bolt which lines up neatly with in and out feed pipes.
Although this is against the Planar instructions which say the pump should be less than 1m from the pick up.
Have seen many pumps mounted close to the unit like this and don’t think it will be a problem.
Also this means the metering pump cable can be about 20cm long so I have trimmed it to length without regard for the warranty. Bit daft to drive round with 4 meters of fuel pump wiring tied up under the van.
Have also shortened the power supply loom as it was also over 4 meters long.
Anyone know why Planar fuse both sides of the power cable?
It was fitted with a 25amp fuse on live and return.
If anyone wants a photo of how it’s gone in I could get one tomorrow
Planar instructions appear to have lost length in translation! Clearly 2m suction, 4m pump.
Only one fuse shown in my manual ( 15A for 24v in this diagram):
Thanks @oldiebut goodie that’s good to know. I don’t have it to hand but yes the English instructions I have are 1m suction 4m pump.
And the wiring is pretty basic, it’s OK but needs work to do a proper job.
The only short loom is the controller which is actually the one that could do with being longer. Always a good excuse to spend more on the extension loom I guess
