Sliding-door break-in

I was about to suggest this. A mate who’s a chippie done this and has not had any bother since doing so.
I think I’ll probs put some dummy windows on the barns and then leave it like that - so it looks more like the tailgate camper versions - rather than glass all round.
 
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I think I’ll probs put some dummy windows on the barns and then leave it like that - so it looks more like the tailgate camper versions - rather than glass all round.
Eventually the foils will be discovered and then I suppose break-ins will be better distributed to the rest of us non trade owners so that we too can have the experiences of broken in vehicles except ours might have little in them. Perhaps then that might be the dissuader! how many vehicles might a breaker in need to achieve before finding a stash of tools. By the looks of that video above they have plenty of time to do a fair few and still find success.

Perhaps the trades people might consider removing every bit of kit at the end of each day or even between jobs . Obviously the know how is out their now but might it still be worth while removing all traces commentary, imagery, video of showing how it is done? I guess that some of those perpetrators, originators may have had some prior knowledge of a vehicles vulnerabilities or perhaps, as seen here on the T6 Forum . The Brits are best at everything, certainly, at thuggery and thievery!

I guess things are just going to become worse before they become...............even worse! As we are no longer in the EU its a tremendous faf trying to leave the UK on a whim as we one may have. We need passports we need finger prints little wonder, OH, we need to come back because we can only spend so much time in the EU now that we have lost our freedom to roam. So give little thought towards escaping permanently. Could come and live here in the Welsh countryside, you will of course need to get use to having riffles pointed at ones face or TV antennas being shot down, trees deliberately pushed over, rights of way blocked wild life shot at hunted by armed hooligans, hunting dog packs, poisonings, strangulations. Entire Badger colonies wiped out. Birds of prey shot. Having no police who do nothing anyway because they are undermanned and in some cases even arm in arm.
 
If your a trade and must leave tools in the van I would bolt in a couple of van volt sliders to fit all the valuable tools, these can be hidden with a little thought, that’s what I did, then had a rack of the power tool cases full of cheap stuff, bits and bobs etc, they will grab all the easy cases without opening them
 
If your a trade and must leave tools in the van I would bolt in a couple of van volt sliders to fit all the valuable tools, these can be hidden with a little thought, that’s what I did, then had a rack of the power tool cases full of cheap stuff, bits and bobs etc, they will grab all the easy cases without opening them
When I have to leave stuff I just remove the most expensive

As have a Kombi doesn’t wig me out too much as have deadlocks and internal plates on the barn doors, and peeping through windows they’ll see nothing is ever left in crew area. Pot luck I think.
 
Could trades people use a reinforced high security internal chest bolted to the floor for most tools. I suppose then the thieves would just angle grind it out.
 
Unfortunately if the lowlife scumbags want to get in they will find a way.
I have seen pictures where a van had expensive extra security locks fitted and they just cut a hole in the roof!!
Makes my blood boil........I'm not sure what the answer is to stop it :confused:
 
I'm not sure what the answer is to stop it :confused:
Defence in depth, stop them getting to the van at all. A secure building or compound with electronic permiter protection so you're alerted well before they even get to the vehicle.

Sadly an impossible scenario for many at home, never when out and about.
 
1000001017.jpgUnfortunately deadlocks don't come into when the door can peel back like a banana skin. My mates van a couple of years ago got broken into. I had one of them with deadlocks which was fitted around the height of the sliding rail. If they want to get in then they will. All his battery tools went missing. Cost thousands to replace. You can see the bricks where they stood on to get leverage to pull down, then some little runt climbed in and passed out the tools.
 
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They would have to be little to get in that gap, yet stood on each others shoulders to get leverage on the top of the door , shame they didn't rip themselves to bits doing it :mad:
 
My mate said he would have loved to have caught them inside it. They would have accidentally tripped (wink wink)a few times im sure,if caught in the act.
 
A friend of mine is an old boy. He was in the Malayan Scouts in the 50's, the forerunner of the modern SAS.

About 25 years ago he came out the Doctors and found three sheets breaking into his car. He challenged them and they made the mistake of raising their fists to him, which resulted in two being knocked unconscious and the third being detained by passers by when he tried to run away.

When it got to court the defence solicitor tried to make a big deal about the level of force used but my friend gave it the big "I'm a frightened old man" act, even though he still went to the gym and ran marathons in his late 60s.

All three went to share a bedroom with Bubba, and will doubtless think twice before crossing and old person that might turn out to be an expert in counter insurgency warfare.

Sadly it doesn't happen often enough, but just occasionally the sheets do get their comeuppance.
 
Just an observational muse.
Perhaps the only long term remedy will take a very long time to come about. That is a complete socioeconomic change for the whole of society and I doubt that their is a will to change because it would need very careful thought and a willingness to accept. It is my believe that it is not just poverty just on its own that creates such massive disharmony but a once relatively prosperous population that suffers a huge downturn in fortune while at the same time smaller number of people seem to prosper exponentially by comparison. A polarisation of fortunes, were there is little to look forward to for a majority and crass over indulgence by a few. The time following the second world war was very tough but improved by the 1960's more jobs than people greater freedoms and so on. We have slipped back I feel to a time before WWII with mass unemployment, failing health, failing services little meaningful industry. I can not see any hope for change if it comes it will be very, very tenuous. I doubt that it will be in my life time if ever.
 
Just an observational muse.
Perhaps the only long term remedy will take a very long time to come about. That is a complete socioeconomic change for the whole of society and I doubt that their is a will to change because it would need very careful thought and a willingness to accept. It is my believe that it is not just poverty just on its own that creates such massive disharmony but a once relatively prosperous population that suffers a huge downturn in fortune while at the same time smaller number of people seem to prosper exponentially by comparison. A polarisation of fortunes, were there is little to look forward to for a majority and crass over indulgence by a few. The time following the second world war was very tough but improved by the 1960's more jobs than people greater freedoms and so on. We have slipped back I feel to a time before WWII with mass unemployment, failing health, failing services little meaningful industry. I can not see any hope for change if it comes it will be very, very tenuous. I doubt that it will be in my life time if ever.
We have lots of people of working age not in employment, but that’s not the same as mass unemployment.
 
Defence in depth, stop them getting to the van at all. A secure building or compound with electronic permiter protection so you're alerted well before they even get to the vehicle.

Sadly an impossible scenario for many at home, never when out and about.
I have suggested the likes of Premier Inn etc could be missing a marketing trick by not employing security even if at an additional charge. I know loads of trades that now opt for Air B&B purely because they feel their vans are more secure off rd in a residential area than hotel (sweet shop) car park. I think most trades would gladly pay a tenner for peace of mind when they are lodging
 
The big hotel chains - I won't name names, but I sure you can use your imagination - are some of the least helpful and cooperative when it comes to making enquiries into autocrime in their car parks. It's rare they even bother providing the cctv footage (I once threatened to seize the entire recorder as evidence before they could be bothered to take 10 minutes to fire up the laptop and download it for me) and even rarer the cameras cover the area you're interested in.

I would not park my van overnight under any circumstances at Lenny Henry's house. Vans at such sites are systematically targeted and the villains know from experience the odds of ever getting caught are near zero - see above - so it's a tried and true MO for them. The lack of interest and investment by these big chains is responsible for a signifcant proportion of the nations "theft-from" crime figures.
 
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