Wow does it. So actually I might be OK. Compared to a car that is still shocking, but I can handle that. Thanks for pointing that out. Might have a look for that now, haha.
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Yep, it’s in the manual in the ‘filling the oil’ section. I guess it covers all engines too. They say it could be as much as a litre to a 1000km when the van is new
How can that be anywhere near be right. Shocking amount. With a remap mine goes like a rocket.
We had an old Mazda 323 - the boxy saloon shaped one back in the day. Inherited it when my Grandad passed. Took it from Leicester to Scotland and it used all its oil (well, it used enough for the dipstick to not register oil). Thing was you’d never know- literally no symptoms. Not smoky, didn’t loose power, hardly got any warmer. Didn’t even get a warning light, you just had to check in the morning before setting off and keep oil in the boot. It kept running like that until we sold it for a Ford Mondeo (shudder).
Looking for some advice, have the CXEB 204, 2017, bought it from Lookers VW, it has full service history, a new dpf when I got it, then a few weeks after getting it the egr went on it, replaced under warranty, it had 43000 on it, now currently on 54000, I have noticed it does use a bit of oil. I have recently returned from a 450mile trip 300 of that towing a caravan about 1900kg and I topped up about 250ml of oil, checked the app see photo, does the 33% mean how full the dpf is? Have been told by the garage the turbo is passing oil a bit, just not sure if the turbo is the problem or the engine. Any advice would be much appreciated, I am about to do an oil analysis on it.
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VW say (in the manual) it’s normal to use 1ltr to 2000km driven. Regardless of this, the only way to know if it’s the engine I believe is with an oil analysis. A place called Millers does this in the UK. I think that would tell you if it’s engine wear or not.
Hi just following the thread
I think I’m also a casualty. Sportline 67 plate owned from new, currently on 37500 miles so .mainly local stop start. Noticed oil level dropped by around 0.3 l topped up reported to dealer car case seal was changed but made no difference to the oil consumption loss rate. Coil light came on and went intolimp mode. Dealer said not egr but flushed it out anyway. Started to worry after reading about the CXE engines on the forum. I’ve tried 2x 600 mile tests and used around 0.4 l each time. Although this passes I’ve booked in for a consumption test anyway as I fear that it’s the beginning of the end. My all in warranty runs out in February next year! Other issues I have noticed is a slight rattle from the engine when feathering the accelerator and sometimes a slight juddering as though it running out of fuel in low revs, and although it’s a dsg the engine has stalled twice.
Not sure whether these symptoms are all related in some way.
Furthermore I have had long life 2 year service plan but now concerned it’s should of had a fixed term service plan(every year) due to low mileage/ stop start
any advice/comments warmly welcomed
Thanks
Extended warranty is no option in DK.
Until 5th year/110000km I had a quite attractive service agreement on everything except glass and tires. Sadly long gone now.
As stated previously I am looking at the TPI 2061290/6
I have now received response on the kulance claim from VW/dealer.
Offer as follows ("translated" original DK pricing incl 25% vat to GBP)
Overall all parts regarding the TPI has a 80% discount. (Added the cambelt kit, now we are at it, that only discounted 25%)
Work by the dealer has a 25% discount. ( the lower discount here will be an item for discussion
)In total we are looking at ~6.660 £ bill.
Breakdown (in slightly rounded numbers for simplicity).
- Oil weighing procedure 115 £ (25% discount)
- Work regarding the TPI 2500 £ (25% discount)
- Parts regarding the TPI 3800 £ (80% discount)
- Cambelt kit 270 £ (25% discount)
If somebody is able to "decrypt" this line "GFS/GUIDET FUNKTION" see several times in the "offer". I´m very curious.
As mentioned I might try to challenge only 25% discount on labor but besides that it seems like my dealer has done a decent job with VW.
Did run it by legal advisor which says that considering this is VW it could be far worse.
Regards Peter
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You guys need to have a look in to consumer law if your in the uk, if the garage turns around to you and says that you have to pay for the repair as it not under warranty and it within 7 years then you won’t have to pay anything. The law states it must me reasonable quality and last for a reasonable about of time, normally 7 years from new. As VW vans are a premium van vs others on the market you would think it should last a reasonable amount of time if the service plan that VW is met.
I have just bought a used 6.1 HL, LWB CXEC from a main dealer but also took out the maximum amount of extended warranty and know consumer law so if anything brakes on it I am not paying for it and if your in the UK neither should you.
I have just bought a used 6.1 HL, LWB CXEC from a main dealer but also took out the maximum amount of extended warranty and know consumer law so if anything brakes on it I am not paying for it and if your in the UK neither should you.
It's not thst simple.
The law allows for that figure to be adjusted to account for age and the degree of use.
But in essence you are correct. The Consumer Rights Act gives a tapering degree of protection out to 6 years, 5 in Scotland.
However, after 6 months the onus falls upon the purchaser to prove the fault was not present or developing at the point of sale.
When it comes to a design fault, such as EGRs causing engine failure, legal responsibility lies with the retailer, and at, say, 5 telling you that you have to foot the entire bill isn't lawful at face value. However, and its a big "but", proving it is an inherent flaw to the satisfaction of the county court is a different matter, and even if you're righteous it can be a difficult, long and drawn out business.
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there is a radio show called BBC three counties with Jonathan Vernon Smith, he has a consumer program most mornings talking about this and helping people in this type of situation. I’ve been listening to it for years now and get a good understanding that not many general public know what there rights are and even less do the companies. As long as you have serviced and maintained the Van to VW spec with their parts even at an independent garage as long as their VAT registered then VW haven’t got much of a leg to stand on.
I’m an Ex VW diagnostic passenger vehicle technician so I know their games.
I’m an Ex VW diagnostic passenger vehicle technician so I know their games.
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Yes that’s what I mean the VW garage. But the franchise has to work to VW spec otherwise they face loosing there license to trade with the VW name. The techs in the UK train the NEC in Milton Keynes so the you will find that the VW garage will do what the law states and to VW spec as they won’t want to be a flagged garage by VW UK
OzzyEdwards
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Hi All,
We’ve been looking at transporters for quite some time now and have come across a high spec 2018 T32 BiTdi 204ps 4motion DSG transporter. It’s only done 8k miles total and had 1 owner since new. Full service history. Was fully prepared to go and put the money down but thought I’d do some last minute research on the engine. Obviously I’ve seen a lot of posts about EGR and Turbo failure and Bore wearing however a lot of these seem to be up nearer the 50k+ mileage region.
Main question would be should I be concerned with a such low mileage BiTdi or would I only really start to see problems after quite some time? Van would be used primarily for long runs to and from holiday destinations etc
Any help would be massively appreciated!
We’ve been looking at transporters for quite some time now and have come across a high spec 2018 T32 BiTdi 204ps 4motion DSG transporter. It’s only done 8k miles total and had 1 owner since new. Full service history. Was fully prepared to go and put the money down but thought I’d do some last minute research on the engine. Obviously I’ve seen a lot of posts about EGR and Turbo failure and Bore wearing however a lot of these seem to be up nearer the 50k+ mileage region.
Main question would be should I be concerned with a such low mileage BiTdi or would I only really start to see problems after quite some time? Van would be used primarily for long runs to and from holiday destinations etc
Any help would be massively appreciated!
I’ve recently bought a 6.1 with the newer biTDI CXEC engine and my understanding is VW fixed components would be 6.1 engine as they were paying so much out for warranty claims on the older one.
I personally have no issue with you are still engine I took out extended warranty for peace of mind and I know they say it has to use more than one piece of oil for 1000 miles to do anything about it regarding the older engine.
How much is the van being sold for?
OzzyEdwards
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Van is just shy of £50k which on face value seems like a steal given it’s LWB, mileage and camper conversion but obviously an eye watering amount of money to shell out for what could be a ticking time bomb
Suppose the argument would be with that budget, the options are endless really so why not shop for a more ‘reliable’ engine
8k miles? 6 years old and only 8,000 miles?
OzzyEdwards
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My thoughts exactly when I first saw the posting. Seems the van was converted to a camper relatively soon after van was produced and I guess they didn’t use it much hence the sale. MOT history seems to indicate relatively little use over past years which again could be a concern potentially?
Maybe novelty of the camper holidays wore off
Edit: I lied, MOT history shows constant use actually. ~5k miles since MOT in 2021
3000 miles in first 3 years could be correct but may be not. I had a caddy I bought 2 years old years ago milage showed 25k obvs no mot certs as was under 3 years old done my due diligence in checks etc but came back clean. 6 months later took it to main dealer for some work when I had a phone call later in the day to tell me that it had been into a dealer 6 months prior to me buying it for some warranty work showing 45k so had been clocked. So basic moral to the story is you can’t always go by mot certs as it could do 100k in first few years then get tampered with before its first mot.
I’d ring vw and ask if it’s had any warranty work and what milage it had.
Saying all that it is rare and the van ended up being one of the most reliable vans I ever had never let me down in 10 years of ownership
I’d ring vw and ask if it’s had any warranty work and what milage it had.
Saying all that it is rare and the van ended up being one of the most reliable vans I ever had never let me down in 10 years of ownership
