All terrain tyres - recommendations and pictures

[TallPaul_S]

max. zulässige Achslast 1040 kg 960 kg

That translates to: Max permissible axle load 1040kg 960kg - which on a T32 should be obviously wrong.

A T30 has max axle loads of 1500-1600kg.



It sounds like they're basing 29psi on 1040kg + 960kg = 2000kg. Is your van completely empty? If not, then that won't be the right pressure. My caravelle is closer to 2500kg for example.

 

[Bikerbuoyuk]

That translates to: Max permissible axle load 1040kg 960kg - which on a T32 should be obviously wrong.

A T30 has max axle loads of 1500-1600kg.
View attachment 257976


It sounds like they're basing 29psi on 1040kg + 960kg = 2000kg. Is your van completely empty? If not, then that won't be the right pressure. My caravelle is closer to 2500kg for example.

That translates to: Max permissible axle load 1040kg 960kg - which on a T32 should be obviously wrong.

A T30 has max axle loads of 1500-1600kg.
View attachment 257976


It sounds like they're basing 29psi on 1040kg + 960kg = 2000kg. Is your van completely empty? If not, then that won't be the right pressure. My caravelle is closer to 2500kg for example.

Only got a slidepod in and odds and sods so add 150kg

 

[Bikerbuoyuk]

Manufacturer Vehicle type Vehicle model Top speed Volkwagon T6.1 T32 LWB 182 km/h (incl. legal tolerance) Front axle max. camber max. permissible axle load Tire size(s) Profile variant Permissible rim sizes Rolling circumference Cold air pressures (full load) <= 2.00 degrees 1040 kg 235/65R17 108H XL AT3WA WILDPEAK A/T AT3WA 6.5 - 8.5J 2222.0 mm 2.0 bar Rear axle <= 2.00 degrees 960 kg 235/65R17 108H XL AT3WA WILDPEAK A/T AT3WA 6.5 - 8.5J 2222.0 mm 2.0 bar

 

[Bikerbuoyuk]

Just had this off 4x4 tyres, who supplied mine falken wildpeak atw235/65 r17
If your van is loaded, would look at running 38-40psi.

If it is empty I would run 33-35 psi.

 

[tonybb66]

Thanks for the info , mines a full CV conversion so I'll keep around 40psi obs depending how much beer I load it with

 

[Dibbus]

Hersteller Volkwagon
Fahrzeugtyp
Fahrzeugmodell T6.1 T32 LWB
Höchstgeschwindigkeit 182 km/h (inkl. gesetzlicher Toleranz)
Vorderachse Hinterachse
max. Sturz <= 2,00 Grad <= 2,00 Grad
max. zulässige Achslast 1040 kg 960 kg
Reifengrösse 235/65R17 108H XL AT3WA 235/65R17 108H XL AT3WA
Profilvariante WILDPEAK A/T AT3WA WILDPEAK A/T AT3WA
zul. Felgengrössen 6,5 - 8,5J 6,5 - 8,5J
Abrollumfang 2222,0 mm 2222,0 mm
Kaltluftdrücke (Volllast) 2,0 bar 2,0 bar
Es ist sicherzustellen, dass der Fahrzeughalter zu jeder von ihm

seems very odd.
I have a axle-load of 1675kg (front) and 1750 (aft). for a T6 from 2016.
U better check the load on the axle, 1040/960 seems not wright.
The loadindex of my tyre is 103. (875kg: just enough).
and why use a tyre with loadindex 108 on an axle of 1040kg??
greetz,
jan

 

[Bikerbuoyuk]

seems very odd.
I have a axle-load of 1675kg (front) and 1750 (aft). for a T6 from 2016.
U better check the load on the axle, 1040/960 seems not wright.
The loadindex of my tyre is 103. (875kg: just enough).
and why use a tyre with loadindex 108 on an axle of 1040kg??
greetz,
jan

My van says 1-1710kg
2-1720kg
Decided on 39psi. See how it goes

 

[Alexander4699]

An interesting thread. I've recently changed from 225 60 17 Cooper ATT (max inflation of 50PSI) on 7" Devonports at 45PSI to 8.5" Fuel Coverts with the same tyres. Due to the wider rim, I've lowered the pressure to 43PSI. The van is a full camper conversion and runs nice on road at 43PSI however, I'd like to see what others run/think?

 

[The Bear78]

seems very odd.
I have a axle-load of 1675kg (front) and 1750 (aft). for a T6 from 2016.
U better check the load on the axle, 1040/960 seems not wright.
The loadindex of my tyre is 103. (875kg: just enough).
and why use a tyre with loadindex 108 on an axle of 1040kg??
greetz,
jan

1675 /1750 is your maximum axle load. 1040/960 could well be the unladen load as 2000kg is in the ballpark for an empty base model van.

I think a lot of information is being lost in the translation here. Certainly the layout of the data is making individual figures difficult to interpret.

103 is indeed the highest load rating required for any standard T6 but, certain tyre types/models are often only available in higher ratings. A 108 may ultimately have a stiffer sidewall (the rating is actually based around it's ability not to overheat under load) but as they are run at a lower pressure, it's unlikey to make a noticeable difference.

 

[czmate1999]

right, saw this thread pop up and am hoping someone can save me a bit of research time. My factory tyres are at end of life and I need to replace, just passed the MOT, phew.

I always thought I would have BFGs or similar but - 4 years on - I am undecided.

So what do people think of BFGs/similar ATs with regards to:

- Road noise
- Economy
- Quality of ride

I Have cargo vectors M&S at the moment and they have been good - but boring to look at .

Have Devonports at the moment and considering powder coating them black or changing them... so any thoughts on wheels would be good as well.

My other criteria when thinking about this is ride height. I do not want the van to go higher than it is currently as I, very occasionally, find myself having to fit in somewhere a bit tight... so may need to adjust suspension to make it work...

All input gratefully received.

 

[TallPaul_S]

What size are your current tyres?

 

[t0mb0]

right, saw this thread pop up and am hoping someone can save me a bit of research time. My factory tyres are at end of life and I need to replace, just passed the MOT, phew.

I always thought I would have BFGs or similar but - 4 years on - I am undecided.

So what do people think of BFGs/similar ATs with regards to:

- Road noise
- Economy
- Quality of ride

I Have cargo vectors M&S at the moment and they have been good - but boring to look at .

Have Devonports at the moment and considering powder coating them black or changing them... so any thoughts on wheels would be good as well.

My other criteria when thinking about this is ride height. I do not want the van to go higher than it is currently as I, very occasionally, find myself having to fit in somewhere a bit tight... so may need to adjust suspension to make it work...

All input gratefully received.

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Compared to a good all-season tyre (and your cargo vectors are a good all-season tyre) then a more off-road focussed tyre such as a BFG will always involve compromises when it comes to their ability on the road. The most measurable compromise based on tyre group tests tends to involve braking distances, these can be substantially worse. You wouldn't expect anything else though, if you want/need increased off-road ability, you'd expect to pay somewhere...

 

[Alexander4699]

right, saw this thread pop up and am hoping someone can save me a bit of research time. My factory tyres are at end of life and I need to replace, just passed the MOT, phew.

I always thought I would have BFGs or similar but - 4 years on - I am undecided.

So what do people think of BFGs/similar ATs with regards to:

- Road noise
- Economy
- Quality of ride

I Have cargo vectors M&S at the moment and they have been good - but boring to look at .

Have Devonports at the moment and considering powder coating them black or changing them... so any thoughts on wheels would be good as well.

My other criteria when thinking about this is ride height. I do not want the van to go higher than it is currently as I, very occasionally, find myself having to fit in somewhere a bit tight... so may need to adjust suspension to make it work...

All input gratefully received.

View attachment 258360

I’ve got 225 60 17 Cooper ATT tyres on 17” Fuel Coverts. With KW STX coilovers lowered 60mm, the ride is sublime - very close to my previous BMW X35D.

With this combination and a Fiamma F45, I’m at about 196cm - I too wanted to be under the 2m height.

 

[czmate1999]

What size are your current tyres?

215/60r 17c

 

[czmate1999]

Compared to a good all-season tyre (and your cargo vectors are a good all-season tyre) then a more off-road focussed tyre such as a BFG will always involve compromises when it comes to their ability on the road. The most measurable compromise based on tyre group tests tends to involve braking distances, these can be substantially worse. You wouldn't expect anything else though, if you want/need increased off-road ability, you'd expect to pay somewhere...

Agree. Maybe a halfway house tyre - if anyone has any ideas?

 

[TallPaul_S]

215/60r 17c

With the smallest AT tyre size of 225/65 R17 you'll gain 18mm in ride height, and with the most common 235/65 R17 you'll gain 24mm in ride height.

235/65 r17 would do fine, and the best all round AT tyre is available in that size, the Wildpeak AT3WA


They're not as aggressive or noisy as a K02, better in the wet too.

 

[t0mb0]

Agree. Maybe a halfway house tyre - if anyone has any ideas?

In a sense your existing cargo vectors are already a halfway house given the all-season rubber and M&S rating. I don't know of any tyre positioned between these and BFG's but I'm sure someone will be along to suggest some - maybe the Wildpeak that @TallPaul_S suggests fits that description?

 

[Dibbus]

1675 /1750 is your maximum axle load. 1040/960 could well be the unladen load as 2000kg is in the ballpark for an empty base model van.

I think a lot of information is being lost in the translation here. Certainly the layout of the data is making individual figures difficult to interpret.

103 is indeed the highest load rating required for any standard T6 but, certain tyre types/models are often only available in higher ratings. A 108 may ultimately have a stiffer sidewall (the rating is actually based around it's ability not to overheat under load) but as they are run at a lower pressure, it's unlikey to make a noticeable difference.

as Dutch, Ican read german and english

 

[The Bear78]

No doubt, but the layout of the information isn't in a format that reads particularly well.

 

[Danny068]

Hi All,
Please don't shoot me down in flames for asking a question that I an image as been asked a 1000 times but I haven't found the post yet!
I have just picked up a T32 LWB it was I believe once a 9 seater mini bus, its now a 3 seater van for fishing and camping. I want to change the 20" rims running 245/45 to something with a 65 wall as the 45 just keep getting knocked about. I picked up some 16 from market place but i didn't (I should have checked) realise the disks at the front are larger than the back. so my question is, does any one know 100% what I should buy wheel size so it fits over all 4 disk I'd like to run 235/65r.

thank you