Autowatch Ghost immobiliser

[Hickey]

Weird mine just goes to usual mfd startup

 

[Hickey]

I wonder why VW don’t build in what the ghost does, it would be so easy for them.

Would be a nightmare for vehicle resale

 

[chriscroft]

I wonder why VW don’t build in what the ghost does, it would be so easy for them.

I agree, just like the 1980's Peugeot with the built-in key pad. A really good idea imo.
I am really tempted to get a Ghost on out T6 and Motorhome; both are really vulnerable to being stollen when we use them at the weekends. The keys get left in coat pockets thrown on the ground, or in a kit bag etc for hours. Not only do I desperately not want to loose a vehicle, often with our cherished and much loved dogs inside; Neither do I want to be explaining to the insurers where the missing set of keys are either...........

 

[Davenjo]

I wonder why VW don’t build in what the ghost does, it would be so easy for them.

It's a bit like why the hell do manufacturers put the OBD port in such accessible and unprotected positions - convenient for when we/technicians need it but means its equally accessible to thieves.

 

[Loz]

Would be a nightmare for vehicle resale

Not really, you could reprogram your own code if you have the key..

I just been doing some research so I have a good idea how they do it..

A Good install is vital.

 

[Hickey]

Not really, you could reprogram your own code if you have the key..

I just been doing some research so I have a good idea how they do it..

A Good install is vital.

If its that easy then car thiefs would have it sussed in no time

 

[Loz]

If its that easy then car thiefs would have it sussed in no time

If whats easy?
Changing the code or getting around the immobiliser?

 

[Hickey]

If whats easy?

To reprogram your code

 

[Loz]

To reprogram your code

To change the code you would need to know the current one.

Like a key safe with a number pad. If you know the code you can unlock it and whikst unlocked change it to a new one.

Any thief walking up to it doesn’t know the code so cant change it.

Just like this; Autowatch Ghost Changing Pin

 

[chriscroft]

It does seem well thought out. It has "vallet codes" that have restricted access if the vehicle is being serviced etc; and there is a special override coding (manufacturer access) with lots of security if you forget your code etc etc.

 

[Hickey]

And say that code got lost by a garage selling the vehicle this would be a bit of a nightmare for them as the vehicle wouldn't start, so for a manufacturer to incorporate this system they would need another failsafe making it less secure, I know how they work as I have had one for a while now

 

[Loz]

It does seem well thought out. It has "vallet codes" that have restricted access if the vehicle is being serviced etc; and there is a special override coding (manufacturer access) with lots of security if you forget your code etc etc.

I agree, they could also include a function to prevent start/stop.

But as I said a few posts up, its installed location is vital to its effectiveness.

 

[Loz]

And say that code got lost by a garage selling the vehicle this would be a bit of a nightmare for them as the vehicle wouldn't start, so for a manufacturer to incorporate this system they would need another failsafe making it less secure, I know how they work as I have had one for a while now

No different to the radio code held by the mothership..

 

[chriscroft]

And say that code got lost by a garage selling the vehicle this would be a bit of a nightmare for them as the vehicle wouldn't start, so for a manufacturer to incorporate this system they would need another failsafe making it less secure, I know how they work as I have had one for a while now

Don't virtually all alarms have these functions including house alarms etc etc? You often need a serial number and some other unique info, sorted out when the system is fitted.
Not sure I see a big risk with this;

 

[chriscroft]

I agree, they could also include a function to prevent start/stop.

But as I said a few posts up, its installed location is vital to its effectiveness.

I guess stop/start could be permanently disabled in the T6's software through vagcom or similar?????

 

[Loz]

I’m seriously tempted by the ghost, just unclear about what was said earlier about having to re enter the pin every time the start stop kicks in...

 

[chriscroft]

I’m seriously tempted by the ghost, just unclear about what was said earlier about having to re enter the pin every time the start stop kicks in...

Do you think stop/start could be turned off in vagcom/carista?
I never really understood out stop/start; mostly it does not turn the engine off; then apparently randomly it does. I certainly wouldn't miss it, if I could turn it off permanently.

 

[Loz]

Do you think stop/start could be turned off in vagcom/carista?
I never really understood out stop/start; mostly it does not turn the engine off; then apparently randomly it does. I certainly wouldn't miss it, if I could turn it off permanently.

Not with vcds currently but can be done with vas.

 

[Hickey]

No different to the radio code held by the mothership..

So if a small independent dealer can get a code reset so can thief so would be pointless

 

[Hickey]

I guess stop/start could be permanently disabled in the T6's software through vagcom or similar?????

No need you only enter code on initial startup