Direct TPMS Retrofit

WARNING !!!
DO NOT BUY FROM THIS
ALIEXPRESS SELLER !!!

YiShuo Professional Auto-parts Store

He/she sells sensors with dead batteries.
I know that the price is tempting but please don't risk and don't waste your time and money.

this will not work! 3AA 907 275 B work...
 
OK so far so good !

I just explain general so that's why you not catch.

Now you wheels have numbers , like 01 , 02 , 03 , 04
You can c that on list which you attach

IN BASIC SETTINGS /CALIBRATION

Type 01 in empty place ( routine control option )
and press GO!

tire pressure icon on cluster will flashing
Go to wheel 01 --- I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS IN YOU CAR. You should know that . You added (ID) to wheel

Now take some strong magnet and touch around sensor ... about 15-30sek
Back to the car , press stop in calibration .

Type 02 and GO! do the seme with all wheels and go for drive . ;)

All fork for me , should work 4U ;) don't know did that calibration help but i did it
Maybe just short drive will do the job but i play without any help so i try everything :)


All the best !ay,


Hi guys! Im currenty having a VW Passat B7, but I figured maybe u guys can help me.

The car has factory fitted direct TPMS, but when i bought it, the module was broken. I ordered a "new", a refurbished one from ebay and 4 new oem sensors. So I took the tires to the shop and mounted the sensors, but it seems I have to program them manually. I followed the guide from Jester, but when I start the calibration process, the flat tire symbol in the IC does not flash. I havnt tried with magnet yet because of this.

Im also having a problem setting the wheel position, I try to change the parameters but it stil says unknown.

Position on sensors: LF 01, RF 02, RR 03 and LR 04

I think the next step would be to try a magnet and then calibrate, I also tried to deflate the tires without success.

The TPMS module seem to work fine with the cluster, and the correct ID of the sensors are stored in the module (see attached pic)

Any clues why I cant set the wheel position, or maybe I dont need this as long as I wake the right ones up when i calibrate them?


Module = 3AA 907 273F
Sensors = 3AA 907 275F

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Post your current VCDS AUTOSCAN and photo of your Instrument Cluster TPMS screen after approximately 1km drive at decent speed.

Your TPMS system has autolocation function built-in so sensor allocation is not required. More details below - page 31.
 
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Yes I saw that pdf earlier.

Default sensors (on summer tires that doesnt work either, but the shop can connect to them with tpms tool) are 3AA 907 275B
and default module which was broken was 3AA 907 273D

My cluster shows the same all the time, regardless of my driving. The flat tire icon flashed for about 30 sec, then light it on.

I also post a photo of one of the new sensors.


Before I typed in my sensors ID, I had the same problem as catfood in post 110

All sensors show same ID & 25.5 bar !

Edited to add; Sensor ID above 4294967295 is 2^32 (when starting at 0), so that's a made up/system default I guess.

I'm out of ideas now chaps.




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Code:
My scan:

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZEE042894   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 4F 52 53 55 56
          61 62 65 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZEE042894

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFGC)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 RE    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9979
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001D0012042601080000
   Shop #: WSC 40300 222 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018RE 003006
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018RE.rod
   VCID: 7EF34BFFE1F77CBFE4-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 016 G    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 4010
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001307140437
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 183F7D672B93A28F4E-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 AP    HW: 3AA 614 109 AP
   Component: J104   C2 450M V453 0030
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000007352906
   Coding: 0137663
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 7BF542EB3AE56997C3-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 BB    HW: 3AA 907 044 BB
   Component: Climatronic   H03 0404
   Revision: 00001K01
   Coding: 061400C803
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW46.rod
   VCID: 71E960C3A0A913C769-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 3AA-937-087.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 Q    HW: 3AA 937 087 Q
   Component: BCM PQ47 H+   422 0474
   Revision: BC422001
   Coding: 0008000000000000009800805400297423DD4B88622D8560E480C7240041
   Shop #: WSC 05311 123 12345
   VCID: 489FED27FBB3F20F1E-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AB 955 419     HW: 3AB 955 419   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 03081  10  0603
   Coding: 00B795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 150813 05  54  0403
   Coding: 02302A

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 3AE-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AE 919 475 C    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0018
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231322003055
   Coding: 108102
   Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001006
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000.rod
   VCID: 3F8DF6FBA67DB5B7AF-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AA    HW: 5N0 959 655 AA
   Component: J234__107 VW10 HI   2118
   Revision: 26019000    Serial number: 003L7PGE0RSC
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 7CF741F73FEB6EAFCA-8028

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS624182103

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS633592103

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6FHV08CKR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS60AFI6CKR

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 BG    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130725101094
   Coding: 198A250000
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6FED66BBB69D05377F-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 920 870 P    HW: 3AA 920 870 P
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0811
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 161F00
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04721
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3F8DF6FBA67DB5B7AF-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AN    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1642
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 210813F1000176
   Coding: 462006
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 7CF741F7FFEB6EAFCA-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BS 907 554 C    HW: 0BS 907 554 C
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      4016
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4683E31F31A7E47FEC-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
   Component:    IMMO         043 0407
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 387F9DE74B53828F6E-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0533
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0007383102
   Coding: 0210B7
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 356194D394417FE775-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 P    HW: 5N1 909 148 J
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.311 1202
   Revision: 1BH04737    Serial number: 00131900123401
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8DF6FB6E7DB5B7AF-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
   Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 043 0645
   Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 0191020052830E76340494157C084FCE705800
   Shop #: WSC 57423 123 104857
   VCID: 387F9DE74B53828F6E-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1642
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 210813F1000176
   Coding: 00000008
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 6FED66BBBE9D05377F-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204 A    HW: 3AA 919 204 A
   Component: Analoguhr  004 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0533
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0007382170
   Coding: 0210B6
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 366393DF894774FF7C-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000001318215
   Coding: 0022167
   Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
   VCID: 366393DF414774FF7C-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0111
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 029A00000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW46.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8DF767-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AN    HW: 1K0 035 186 AN
   Component: RCD310 EU     H04 5006
   Revision: -----08S    Serial number: VWZ4Z2N1271716
   Coding: 05000400040011
   Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
   VCID: 72EB6FCFADAF28DF90-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1642
   Serial number: 210813F1000176
   Coding: 030F1859
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 71E960C3A8A913C769-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 40214J17521491846297

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011
   Serial number: 30000000121159
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 377D9EDB8E4D8DF767-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007665064766
   Coding: 0A10000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 00015 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3B7582EBB265A99783-806E

No fault code found.

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A new module from a car junk yard solved it for me. I Just installed the "new" module, and drove like 200 meters and it all came to life by itself, no coding needed.
Now I just need to upload my parameters :)

Its strange, my old TPMS module which I didnt get to work look exacly the same as yours, Robert (check your post #30).
 
mine was doing same thing. thought i got scammed. bought a tpms tool (Foxwell 1000) no data either. was considering buying programmble sensors from fowell then after driving 500 miles + it sprang to life... happy. still haven't created profile
 
So you have 2 options.
1. At least one of your sensors is faulty or its battery is dead - system won't work at all.
2. Try your receiver at different location and different positioning.

By the way, sensor battery suppose to last for 7 years but a lot of sellers and buyers don't pay attention to that.
Sometimes you can buy a brand new sensor/s with fairly old battery(therefore nearly dead one).

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Above is my spare one purchased recently which turned out to be May 2018 so already 3 and half years old.
I couldn't resist and I had to satisfy my curiosity :whistle:

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CR2450HR data sheet
 
My 4 sensors I first bought from Ebay that didnt work (two different shops couldnt get any contact with them) looks like yours, Robert, so I bought the orange ones instead.

This was the item:
 
No, you don't have to note or program sensors/serial numbers or anything like that.

This DIRECT TPMS is equipped with so called auto-location function.
Basically speaking the receiver, as it is located in between rear wheels, is able to determine which 2 wheel sensors are installed on the front and which are on the rear axle.
This is done by the differentiation of sensor transmission signal strength.
Rear wheels will obviously have stronger signal and front ones weaker.
And then left and right sides are distinguished by the different direction of rotation:)
There is one small side effect associated with Direct TPMS AUTOLOCATION functionality.
Basically if one of the FRONT batteries/sensors fail and it gets replaced with a new unit(fresh battery)
the system might "see" it as a stronger transmission signal and therefore recognise it as a REAR wheel instead of FRONT.

This is not a big problem but it might confuse a lot of people so it is a good thing to be aware of.
 
Yeah fully agree, but in this case scenario a pair would be for one side of the vehicle and not for front/rear.
 
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