Fitting the OEM Auxillary Heating Ductwork

[oldiebut goodie]

I still would not touch a Planar - they may well be made in Latvia but a quick check of the Latvian company records shows that the shareholders have "transferred" their residence from the russian federation to Israel. As far as I can see they are still russian owned!
Not a penny should be going their way.

Extract from their "company's house" equivalent:

 

[Gsixty]

Having just spent time reading through this thread I am still not sure of a couple of things.

Assuming I use a 2kW Webasto/Eberspacher heater kit. Like this on eBay.

Then I could use all the intake ducting supplied with the kit as it would be hidden behind a new step with vent.

I would then need to get the parts for the hot air output up the B pillar:

• Air Guide Channel = 7E0 819 381D (I think this is intake so not needed
• Frame Air Guide = 7E0 819 475
• Air Guide B-Pillar = 7E0 819 655
• B-Pillar Trim Cover = 7E0 867 292AA NA2
• Warm Air Vent B-Pillar - Front = 7E0 819 209
• Warm Air Vent B-Pillar - Rear = 7E0 819 383A
• Screws for B-pillar duct = N91179601 (you'll require 2)
• Cable ties = N10647801 (you'll need 2) (dont bother they are a rip off and just normal cable ties !)
• Front Step with Vent Hole = 7LA 863 735E 82V (No courtesy light)

Now, this is where I start to struggle, mainly with how I connect the output of the heater to the OEM bit that goes up the b pillar.

If the cradle that holds the heater has its output in the correct place I would need a 60mm to 90mm adapter? If so which one would work? Links appreciated.
If there are no cradles that line up the heater then how do I connect the output of the heater to the 60mm to 90mm adapter that is on the b pillar trim?

I know it must be possible, but I cant find the info in this thread of the exact way to do it and how it was done. Any info/help with these points appreciated.

Thanks in advance

 

[VanBlanc]

I know it must be possible, but I cant find the info in this thread of the exact way to do it and how it was done. Any info/help with these points appreciated.

Thanks in advance

This thread will help T6 Planar heater onto OEM ducting

You'll find plenty of silicone hose adapters on Ebay - Black Silicone Hose Straight Reducer - Coolant Radiator Pipe Tube Reduction Step | eBay

 

[Gsixty]

This thread will help T6 Planar heater onto OEM ducting

You'll find plenty of silicone hose adapters on Ebay - Black Silicone Hose Straight Reducer - Coolant Radiator Pipe Tube Reduction Step | eBay

Thanks, will have a look.

 

[Gsixty]

Heres the updated list i have for T6.1, i havent ordered all of these parts yet, im confident they are correct but please double check what your ordering !

• Intake Duct - Step = 7E0 819 219
• Air Guide Channel = 7E0 819 381D
• Frame Air Guide = 7E0 819 475
• Air Guide B-Pillar = 7E0 819 655
• B-Pillar Trim Cover = 7E0 867 292AA NA2
• Warm Air Vent B-Pillar - Front = 7E0 819 209
• Warm Air Vent B-Pillar - Rear = 7E0 819 383A
• Screws for front step duct = N90879402 (you'll require 6)
• Screws for B-pillar duct = N91179601 (you'll require 2)
• Cable ties = N10647801 (you'll need 2) (dont bother they are a rip off and just normal cable ties !)
• Front Step with Vent Hole = 7LA 863 735E 82V (No courtesy light)

Hi, I just got an email back from the local van centre, saying that part number for the step

on the quote it is 7LA 863 735 B8 2V it looks close, I don't know what the E or B means?

Screws can only be bought in packs of 10 so I will have some spare.

Does anyone know are all the B pillar trim marked on the inside where to cut the holes for the vent? I would prefer to use that and save some plastic if it is. Otherwise I will need to get an new one with holes in.

 

[VanBlanc]

Now I have all the parts from TPS as the earlier lists we posted for my Cali. I have inspected them and offered them together and it looks 100% there so I will do a mock up of the cradle and ducts tomorrow. The screws I ordered for the ducts are mostly unnecessary if you have a supply of self tappers and now I see them the AV mounts for the cradle could be got cheaper elsewhere, they are 25mm high with M6 studs. I have a fresh B pillar with cut outs so I may cut the original one and when I am finished offer the new one for sale to recover bit of cost.

I also have the heater, controller and all the installation bits and pieces including M6 hex rivnuts. And I have found a location for the controller that will mean extending the loom a metre or so. However installation won't be for a few weeks until it is less cold outside and a few dry days. I'll need to get the van up on ramps, get the undertrays off, drop the tank and not forget to disconnect the batteries.

 

[VanBlanc]

Here is the complete kit of parts waiting to be installed.



It seems that I won't need the silicone hose I bought for the inlet as the OE fits the Autoterm inlet but I will need the one I bought for the outlet together with the original boot on the duct so that I can adjust for the correct length.



Now all I need id some slightly warmer drier days before the end of March.

 

[Gsixty]

@VanBlanc thanks for that.

I will follow the install with interest. especially relating how you get the heater lined up with the OEM ducting.

For now a couple of questions, do you have all the part numbers for the metal cradle the heater is sitting in? I can't find them listed anywhere.
Secondly how did you get TPS to sell to you, I emailed the local with a list of part numbers and he emailed back asking for my account details - they won't sell to public.

I would be grateful if you could give me an idea of the prices you paid to see if its much cheaper than the VW dealer.


EDIt: Just because the intake will fit on the layout above, it doesn't mean it will line up when the bits are on the van.

 

[bobbybasic]

@VanBlanc thanks for that.

I will follow the install with interest. especially relating how you get the heater lined up with the OEM ducting.

For now a couple of questions, do you have all the part numbers for the metal cradle the heater is sitting in? I can't find them listed anywhere.
Secondly how did you get TPS to sell to you, I emailed the local with a list of part numbers and he emailed back asking for my account details - they won't sell to public.

I would be grateful if you could give me an idea of the prices you paid to see if its much cheaper than the VW dealer.


EDIt: Just because the intake will fit on the layout above, it doesn't mean it will line up when the bits are on the van.

Is this what you're after? With the 1 inch spacers @Grim Reaper suggests.

Diesel heater 5kw will it fit..

yep i have a 5kw installed on mine in the oem locations with the ebay brackets. So it mounts ok with an ebay bracket, good to know, thanks for the heads, but in regards to all the other posts i am starting to think 5kw, i might of got the wrong one and should of gone with the 2kw.. I guess my...

www.t6forum.com

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/product/7H0819735/vag-bracket-7h0819735

1	7E0819379	Bracket		1		From £26.60
2	7H0819549	Bracket	front	1		From £43.12
3	7H0819735	Bracket	rear	1		From £43.12

 

[Gsixty]

Is this what you're after? With the 1 inch spacers @Grim Reaper suggests.

Diesel heater 5kw will it fit..

yep i have a 5kw installed on mine in the oem locations with the ebay brackets. So it mounts ok with an ebay bracket, good to know, thanks for the heads, but in regards to all the other posts i am starting to think 5kw, i might of got the wrong one and should of gone with the 2kw.. I guess my...

www.t6forum.com

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/product/7H0819735/vag-bracket-7h0819735

1	7E0819379	Bracket		1		From £26.60
2	7H0819549	Bracket	front	1		From £43.12
3	7H0819735	Bracket	rear	1		From £43.12

View attachment 188631

Thanks, I never heard of that place. I had a look and it lists them for fitment to Transporters from 2003 to 2019. Wonder if the T6.1 is different.

 

[VanBlanc]

@VanBlanc thanks for that.

I will follow the install with interest. especially relating how you get the heater lined up with the OEM ducting.

For now a couple of questions, do you have all the part numbers for the metal cradle the heater is sitting in? I can't find them listed anywhere.
Secondly how did you get TPS to sell to you, I emailed the local with a list of part numbers and he emailed back asking for my account details - they won't sell to public.

I would be grateful if you could give me an idea of the prices you paid to see if its much cheaper than the VW dealer.


EDIt: Just because the intake will fit on the layout above, it doesn't mean it will line up when the bits are on the van.

Prices and parts are all listed a couple of pages back in this thread.

The price you pay at the dealer will likely be at least full retail. I got about 5% off at TPS. I did look around the internet but as I have said people wanted top money for even used parts if you can find them in the UK. Forget buying from Europe, Brexit has seen to that. And any case I needed some specific parts for a California which seems less common than a van conversion. I also want to keep the van as original as possible, rather than use aftermarket installations, to keep its residual up there.

With the OE cradle the Autoterm heater lines up spot on with the ducts, just one of the reasons for using it. You are wrong by the way, there is a locater in the cradle so the intake will line up exactly. It is the outlet that needs the extra bit but with the reducer I bought, the OE boot and /or a short piece of the flex duct Autoterm supplied with the kit it will fit no problem at all.

 

[VanBlanc]

@bobbybasic that's exactly what I paid TPS

@Gsixty the only "spacers" I need are the 4 AV mounts shown it the picture above. They are 25mm x 25mm dia with M6 studs.

 

[Gsixty]

Prices and parts are all listed a couple of pages back in this thread.

The price you pay at the dealer will likely be at least full retail. I got about 5% off at TPS. I did look around the internet but as I have said people wanted top money for even used parts if you can find them in the UK. Forget buying from Europe, Brexit has seen to that. And any case I needed some specific parts for a California which seems less common than a van conversion. I also want to keep the van as original as possible, rather than use aftermarket installations, to keep its residual up there.

With the OE cradle the Autoterm heater lines up spot on with the ducts, just one of the reasons for using it. You are wrong by the way, there is a locater in the cradle so the intake will line up exactly. It is the outlet that needs the extra bit but with the reducer I bought, the OE boot and /or a short piece of the flex duct Autoterm supplied with the kit it will fit no problem at all.

Thanks, I can see the parts list in post 522 and a total cost of 557 inc VAT. I was hoping you had a breakdown of price per part.

 

[eugene]

I also have the heater, controller and all the installation bits and pieces including M6 hex rivnuts. And I have found a location for the controller that will mean extending the loom a metre or so. However installation won't be for a few weeks until it is less cold outside and a few dry days. I'll need to get the van up on ramps, get the undertrays off, drop the tank and not forget to disconnect the batteries.

you dont need to drop the tank. I suggest not to overcomplicate and do it the OEM way

 

[VanBlanc]

you dont need to drop the tank. I suggest not to overcomplicate and do it the OEM way

I had been following threads that all said drill the sender unit until I say that the T6.1 has the same sender as my Crafter had so all you need to do is cut the top of the nipple off and use a 90deg quick connector. So its just down to whether I can reach the unit just by lowering the back of the tank.

T6.1 diesel heater install

Well 8pm on a Thursday is as good a time as any to start installing a night heater! Can anyone tell me where I need to drill the hole in this fuel sender for the stand pipe for the heater? It looks different to the one in my T6 which had a nice square to aim for.

www.t6forum.com

 

[eugene]

If you have the ThermoTop Evo, there is no need to tap into the fuel line. Just tap into the Webasto one before the webasto fuel pump.
This is the OEM way of doing it. I doubt they changed it on the T6.1. I showed a pic of my setup a few pages back. Don't forget to buy a few more hose clips before you do the fuel line job. Eberspacher uses Norma ABA clips.

OEM setup

 

[VanBlanc]

If you have the ThermoTop Evo, there is no need to tap into the fuel line. Just tap into the Webasto one before the webasto fuel pump.
This is the OEM way of doing it. I doubt they changed it on the T6.1. I showed a pic of my setup a few pages back. Don't forget to buy a few more hose clips before you do the fuel line job. Eberspacher uses Norma ABA clips.

OEM setup

There is no indication that it has a coolant heater and it's not mentioned in any spec's so I hadn't considered it. However it does seem to be a standard item and I have just looked underneath and can see a wee exhaust just forward and centre of the fuel tank.

What size is the T piece? I have an 8 x 5 x 8 Webasto one in my box of bits but that would be to cut into the main fuel line.

 

[eugene]

What size is the T piece? I have an 8 x 5 x 8 Webasto one in my box of bits but that would be to cut into the main fuel line.

I don't remember but it was more like 6mm. Honestly, I think any sensible size will do as long as you have the right small legth hoses to connect it to the existing and new fuel lines. I only took off the dustguard during my build. Didn't even have to unbolt the webasto. I also used the oem rubber pump holder (pic a few pages back). Std rubber mount will do as well.

 

[VanBlanc]

EDIt: Just because the intake will fit on the layout above, it doesn't mean it will line up when the bits are on the van.

Apologies, I discovered today that it doesn’t line up side to side. That’s because the frame is made for a 4KW Webasto that is c40mm wider than a 2KW item. Easily solved with longer studs and spacers.

 

[VanBlanc]

Here is the heater in place with the front duct. I had to take the fixing studs out and replace them with longer, c40mm, and add a washer and 20mm thread joiner as a spacer. So now it lines up good. Tomorrow I will tackle the B post.