You can, but you would have to wire in the relay.
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I might go down your route @Ukfozzybear...just checking them out...so you can hard wire them off the main battery? Aliexpress give several options ...4pin with relay, 2pin with no cut off fuel (which im not worried about tbh if this what I think it means), and 4pin NO relay.....when does the relay come into play?i have a MV710 cost me £10 from AliexpressMiCODUS丨Professional Global Positioning Solutions Provider
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The Vodafone one sounded like good idea l, bar its only battery operated and until it got slated fairly early on.
Cheers for all the useful info everyone that has replied.
The MV720g is the new all singing one that Grim Reaper has, they work of 4g (2g is slowly being phased out) it has more advanced options than mine.I might go down your route @Ukfozzybear...just checking them out...so you can hard wire them off the main battery? Aliexpress give several options ...4pin with relay, 2pin with no cut off fuel (which im not worried about tbh if this what I think it means), and 4pin NO relay.....when does the relay come into play?
The Vodafone one sounded like good idea l, bar its only battery operated and until it got slated fairly early on.
Cheers for all the useful info everyone that has replied.
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I wired mine directly into the Fuse panel, it's hidden somewhere you need "inspector gadget" arms to get to.
The fuel shut off is needed if you want to disable the car/van etc, you can add the relay to disable at your request.
Mine came with 4 pin no relay, it just means if you ever wanted to add the shut off relay you can.
This is the one I've fitted to my latest car.
The 'cut off fuel' bit of it isn't exactly a relay contact (if you were expecting continuity on the two wires then you'll be disappointed), instead it's more of a MOSFET circuit, ie it detects voltage on one side and replicates it on the other, until you send it a text and it stops outputting the voltage on the other side. I have it wired into my fuel pump feed.
It has a 5th wire which can be connected to a switched live (accessory) so it can send you a text if that wire goes live.
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The 'cut off fuel' bit of it isn't exactly a relay contact (if you were expecting continuity on the two wires then you'll be disappointed), instead it's more of a MOSFET circuit, ie it detects voltage on one side and replicates it on the other, until you send it a text and it stops outputting the voltage on the other side. I have it wired into my fuel pump feed.
It has a 5th wire which can be connected to a switched live (accessory) so it can send you a text if that wire goes live.
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The TK104 can do that too, we just prefer call & response when using a PAYG sim
Thanks @Grim Reaper ...just ordered one.. I may need your help to fit it when it arrives if thats ok.This is the one I've fitted to my latest car.
The 'cut off fuel' bit of it isn't exactly a relay contact (if you were expecting continuity on the two wires then you'll be disappointed), instead it's more of a MOSFET circuit, ie it detects voltage on one side and replicates it on the other, until you send it a text and it stops outputting the voltage on the other side. I have it wired into my fuel pump feed.
It has a 5th wire which can be connected to a switched live (accessory) so it can send you a text if that wire goes live.
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No problem, I'd recommend getting an ASDA mobile PAYG sim in the meantime so you can get that side of things sorted out before it arrives.
Are you fitting it to the van? Diesel or Petrol? Are you going to make use of the cut off / on feature? You'll need to think about which circuit you are going to use for that and where you are going to mount the relay in the van (it needs to be somewhere where it can see the sky to get GPS reception, under plastic is OK but no metal between it and the satellites.
Are you competent to add fuses to fusebox wiring for permanent and switched live feeds?
Are you fitting it to the van? Diesel or Petrol? Are you going to make use of the cut off / on feature? You'll need to think about which circuit you are going to use for that and where you are going to mount the relay in the van (it needs to be somewhere where it can see the sky to get GPS reception, under plastic is OK but no metal between it and the satellites.
Are you competent to add fuses to fusebox wiring for permanent and switched live feeds?
Sorry for being a bit too late chipping in on this one but here goes anyway. I've got a Streetwize as mentioned in the original post and it works well. It came with a hard wire kit for connecting straight to a starter or leisure battery and also a micro USB cable which is what I use (but it is well hidden) - the built in rechargeable battery only lasts a couple of days io it does really need permanent power. With the Giffgaff sim card that I installed, it notifies my mobile with a SMS link to maps if the van moves out of a customisable geofence (mine is set at 50') and you can also get it's location and live track it at any time with a phone call. The only issue that I've had is that it occasionally gave a spurious alert telling me that the van had moved and is in a location a couple of miles from home (always the same place`!). However, I contacted Streetwize support who were very good indeed and sorted it out. Again, sorry for the late response.
Thanks @Ayjay...good to know...im going with the MiCODUS which are ridiculously cheap, so hopefully all will be good.
Thanks @Grim Reaper...ill sort the sim in the next few weeks hopefully. Not sure about the fuel cut off feature atm, ill have a think about that...maybe if its not too difficult.
Could you poss send a photo of your modified fusebox wiring incorporating new fuse(s) for the tracker. ?
Once I get the tracker ill start getting my head around the installation.
Many thanks.
Happy to help if needed. I’m a average jo and I managed to install it in the fuse box.
To add circuits to the fusebox, you will first have to work out if there are any spare positions you can make use of.
I personally dislike those add a fuse adapters you can get and would always do it from the rear if possible (it also makes it harder for anyone potentially trying to disable the tracker from easily finding how it is powered)
This will entail accessing the fusebox (taking all the lower dash panels off so you can get at the screws that hold the fusebox in place)
Once you have access, and you have removed the fusebox (be careful where the screws will drop into the area under the gearstick.. block it up with a rag) you should be able to see where the busbars are down one side of the fuse holder holes, a spare position will only have metal in one side.(the busbar side)
Work out which one of the busbars is live all the time, and which one is switched.
You may need to remove the purple plastic bits that go into one end of the fusebox (these stop the terminals from being able to be removed or added) before inserting a pre-wired terminal the correct size for the fuse way into the rear of the fusebox where all the other wires enter/exit.
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I personally dislike those add a fuse adapters you can get and would always do it from the rear if possible (it also makes it harder for anyone potentially trying to disable the tracker from easily finding how it is powered)
This will entail accessing the fusebox (taking all the lower dash panels off so you can get at the screws that hold the fusebox in place)
Once you have access, and you have removed the fusebox (be careful where the screws will drop into the area under the gearstick.. block it up with a rag) you should be able to see where the busbars are down one side of the fuse holder holes, a spare position will only have metal in one side.(the busbar side)
Work out which one of the busbars is live all the time, and which one is switched.
You may need to remove the purple plastic bits that go into one end of the fusebox (these stop the terminals from being able to be removed or added) before inserting a pre-wired terminal the correct size for the fuse way into the rear of the fusebox where all the other wires enter/exit.
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Using the fuel cut off feature on a diesel van is a bit more difficult, the only wiring you can access inside the cabin that has any meaningful effect on fuel delivery is the wiring to the lift pump underneath the passenger seat.
Cutting into this will certainly allow you to stop the van if it should be stolen, BUT powering down the lift pump ultimately starves the High Pressure Fuel Pump of its source of fuel which may lead to serious damage to the pump.
If you do use this, I would say only ever send the cut command in the direst emergency situation.
The cut feature is speed dependant, over 20kph it pulses the cut until speed drops below 20kph when it comes on hard.
Check it works using a test light and then leave it alone until you need it.
The tracker I have on my van (Xexun XT009) has an output wire that feeds a relay, so activating the cut feature can be used to either make or break a circuit depending on which type of relay you use.
A petrol van on the other hand, I see no issues turning off the pump.
You could wire it to a hidden horn somewhere, leave the circuit in the cut state, and if the van was stolen, you could deactivate the cut which would sound the horn. Might be useful if you had narrowed down the location of the van to an industrial estate at which point activating the horn would lead you to the final location.
Cutting into this will certainly allow you to stop the van if it should be stolen, BUT powering down the lift pump ultimately starves the High Pressure Fuel Pump of its source of fuel which may lead to serious damage to the pump.
If you do use this, I would say only ever send the cut command in the direst emergency situation.
The cut feature is speed dependant, over 20kph it pulses the cut until speed drops below 20kph when it comes on hard.
Check it works using a test light and then leave it alone until you need it.
The tracker I have on my van (Xexun XT009) has an output wire that feeds a relay, so activating the cut feature can be used to either make or break a circuit depending on which type of relay you use.
A petrol van on the other hand, I see no issues turning off the pump.
You could wire it to a hidden horn somewhere, leave the circuit in the cut state, and if the van was stolen, you could deactivate the cut which would sound the horn. Might be useful if you had narrowed down the location of the van to an industrial estate at which point activating the horn would lead you to the final location.
To add to grims comments.
On the fuse box image below.
The red larger fuses are perm live
The yellow larger fuses are switched live
(I’ve used larger fuses for my install)
someone needs to confirm but believe the purple are perm live and the green switched live on the mini fuses.
On the fuse box image below.
The red larger fuses are perm live
The yellow larger fuses are switched live
(I’ve used larger fuses for my install)
someone needs to confirm but believe the purple are perm live and the green switched live on the mini fuses.
There was a great write up on how to add a fuse way on https://www.my-gti.com/601/addition...olf-jetta-passat-eos-scirocco-rabbit-fuse-box but it appears that VW have had that site taken down for some reason..
Some of the positions don't have any metalwork in them, you'd have to insert two terminals and take one off to a permanent/switched power source.
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