[Guide] [T6_modified] T6 Webasto Aux/Parking (water) Heater Configuration with VCDS
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Actually I'm not exactly sure what T91 and T91R are referring to. Sellers seem to use them a bit vaguely.Thanks again - and hopefully my final dumb question! I am trying to purchase this kit:
NEW OEM Webasto Telestart T91R LIN 5Q0963513A kit with VW Remote | eBay
VW Remote - T91R part number 5Q0963511. Car model and model year still has to be verified. 1 x Remote 5Q0963511 T91R with VW emblem (with battery inside);. There are 2 modifications of Webasto heaters, installed in VW vehicles originally.www.ebay.co.uk
The seller is asking if I definitely need the T91R and not T91.
I have an early 2016 T6 Caravelle with Thermo Top Evo (Euro 6 engine) -would the linked kit work with my webasto or do I need the non R version? Thanks again, James
Some hopefully clarifying details here:
Webasto Auxiliary Heater - customizing
In my panel there is only two symbols: either ventilation (blower only as in the linked picture) or cabin heating (heater symbol). The engine heating is not indicated any way in the panel. Does this make sense? Perhaps you could post a picture of your manual and symbols of the control panel...
Thus either of these works:
Remote control receiver 5Q0 963 513 A - with oval remote controller part# ???
or
Remote control receiver 3Q0 963 513 - with square remote 3G0 963 511 -/A/B (generally seem to be even less expensive 
, newer). This square remote does not have markings T91 nor T91R in it.
, newer). This square remote does not have markings T91 nor T91R in it.
NEW OEM Webasto Telestart Unit Controler 3Q0963513 + Remote Control transmitter | eBay
100% NEW OEM Webasto Set STH VW, Skoda, Seat. Transmitter as needed. I have these models Karoq (2017 - ). Kodiaq (2017 - ). Superb (2015 - ). Octavia (2015 - ). LT (sprinter) (2016 - ).
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PS. There are no dumb questions
Malaroo978
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Thank you - very helpful. One seller told me the R was:
T91 has feedback function (remote shows fault codes form heater if such appears), T91R does not have this feature. Also some other features are limited on t91R.
According year of manufacture you would need LIN or even STH version in situation when auxiliary heater is original.
I have ordered the following in the end:
Thank you so far!
T91 has feedback function (remote shows fault codes form heater if such appears), T91R does not have this feature. Also some other features are limited on t91R.
According year of manufacture you would need LIN or even STH version in situation when auxiliary heater is original.
I have ordered the following in the end:
VW Webasto Steuergerät 3Q0963513 Funkempfänger Telestart Modul /#357 for sale online | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for VW Webasto Steuergerät 3Q0963513 Funkempfänger Telestart Modul /#357 at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products!
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Thank you so far!
Coding 4101 - Does the Webasto now turn on - when engine is running and A/C system OFF ???
Hmmm... running out of ideas... only thing left is to check how the measurement values are when Webasto is running.
Thank you very much. I think I have learned quite a bit of how Webasto aux.heater is integrated into T6.
It seems that Webasto indeed needs a request also from A/C System to turn on. Running engine in cold (below +5C) alone does not turn Webasto on.
However, I'd expect that most of us would have A/C system set to heating+heater blower on anyways, so this shouldn't be a problem?
So, I think we have reached the conclusion that the Webasto works as designed by VW? No faults. All the "signals"- e.g. engine running, A/C heating request, etc - are detected.
Attached a pdf-file including the data you just provided.
Malaroo978
Member
So I managed to get my firmware updated via VCP yesterday thanks to using the VCP user map. Nice friendly guy who was very helpful and all sorted quickly with no problems!
I dont have the kit to connect up yet - waiting for it to arrive from Poland. But just posting up what OBDEleven is now showing and a couple more questions for connecting up!
Firstly the fault code - I assume this is the code from not having a controller connected?
Secondly - for connecting up the telestart. Is it literally a case of positive to the fuse holder and put in appropriate (5amp?) Fuse? Negative to earth point below and signal wire to red connector with green wire? How is it wired to the green wire? Do I need a connector type or do I solder into the wire itself?
Thanks again guys
I dont have the kit to connect up yet - waiting for it to arrive from Poland. But just posting up what OBDEleven is now showing and a couple more questions for connecting up!
Firstly the fault code - I assume this is the code from not having a controller connected?
Secondly - for connecting up the telestart. Is it literally a case of positive to the fuse holder and put in appropriate (5amp?) Fuse? Negative to earth point below and signal wire to red connector with green wire? How is it wired to the green wire? Do I need a connector type or do I solder into the wire itself?
Thanks again guys
You are correct with your answered questionsSo I managed to get my firmware updated via VCP yesterday thanks to using the VCP user map. Nice friendly guy who was very helpful and all sorted quickly with no problems!
I dont have the kit to connect up yet - waiting for it to arrive from Poland. But just posting up what OBDEleven is now showing and a couple more questions for connecting up!
Firstly the fault code - I assume this is the code from not having a controller connected?
Secondly - for connecting up the telestart. Is it literally a case of positive to the fuse holder and put in appropriate (5amp?) Fuse? Negative to earth point below and signal wire to red connector with green wire? How is it wired to the green wire? Do I need a connector type or do I solder into the wire itself?
Thanks again guys
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.All of this has been discussed in detail below.
The fault is because of missing overhead control panel - nothing to worry about.
To enable the controller (for remote) use OBDeleven Long coding (Remote control).
You do have Climatronic A/C?
(If not, for Climatic A/C "Front fresh air blower" needs to be set directly controlled (+add wiring for that).)
[Guide] Webasto Aux/Parking (water) Heater Configuration with VCDS
From the factory T6 Webasto aux/parking (water) heater comes configured to heat cabin only. Up here in Finland the vans come with overhead control/timer panel to allow the use of timer or remote to switch on engine and cabin preheating before setting off. The heater is configured by dealer to...
Basically yes - just the power. Signal wire should be green/white (connector T17p pin 1) as here:
Oem Webasto Auxiliary Heater To Parking Heater "retrofit"
There is one side effect of this "retrofit" - one permanent fault in Aux. Heater (18). 0266 - Databus U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message [TIMEOUT mDachdisplay] Luckily there are no practical consequences of that fault. It appears that connecting Telestart unit without the overhead timer is the...
Remote sync/learning:
1. Verify the remote: press OFF ▷ blinking red light on the remote.
2. Power OFF the controller (5Q0963513A or 3Q0963513) for at least 5 seconds. OEM setup fuse SC54 (7.5A)
3. Power ON the controller.
4. After approx. 2 seconds (but before 6 secs) press OFF on the remote for 1 second.
5. Verify by pressing OFF again ▷ steady red light on the remote (instead of blinking).
Malaroo978
Member
Perfect thank you - will fit with 7.5a fuse.
Thanks for wiring info - I'm more after the mechanics of how best to fit it to the adapter without cutting into the green/white wire in the block? Or is that the best way? Will be fitting this next weekend when the kit has turned up
Thanks for wiring info - I'm more after the mechanics of how best to fit it to the adapter without cutting into the green/white wire in the block? Or is that the best way? Will be fitting this next weekend when the kit has turned up
You should have a pair connectors - where green/white is only on the one from Webasto.
The most sophisticated way would be to add a pin to the other "van side"connector (vacant pin 1) -->
Could use so called "repair wires" e.g. -->
Electrical interface...What is it for?
What is the Electrical interface for external use (terminal block in driver´s seat)? I ask because I was hoping it could be a good place to wire my dash-cam in to.....Any ideas or wiring diagrams available. Thanks in advance.
Malaroo978
Member
Perfect thank you - I'll stop asking questions now and get on with it next weekend and post up pics of how I get on!
Malaroo978
Member
So I finally got round to fitting this (kit arrived yesterday as it came from Poland).
It was fairly straight forward - only complication I had was connecting up power to the telestart unit as I didn't t have a fuse holder style connector or any spares under the seat. So I took love feed from the webasto loom live input (taped in) via a 12v fuse holder to the telestart.
For the ground I used the underneath factory ground bolt. For the signal wire I removed the green and white cable from the block and used a 1mm pin on the end of the loom I changed (comes with female not male connection which wouldn't work).
All working fine as it should and setup to heat the engine too (change over valve setting) which I'll change in the summer to only heat the cabin. Just need to replace the starter battery now as its only a 68Ah and 5 years old so starting to struggle!
Thanks for all the help on here - this made it a sub £200 mod vs £6-700 to get someone to do it! Pictures below for reference of connections
It was fairly straight forward - only complication I had was connecting up power to the telestart unit as I didn't t have a fuse holder style connector or any spares under the seat. So I took love feed from the webasto loom live input (taped in) via a 12v fuse holder to the telestart.
For the ground I used the underneath factory ground bolt. For the signal wire I removed the green and white cable from the block and used a 1mm pin on the end of the loom I changed (comes with female not male connection which wouldn't work).
All working fine as it should and setup to heat the engine too (change over valve setting) which I'll change in the summer to only heat the cabin. Just need to replace the starter battery now as its only a 68Ah and 5 years old so starting to struggle!
Thanks for all the help on here - this made it a sub £200 mod vs £6-700 to get someone to do it! Pictures below for reference of connections
Hi. How you found that you have remote module? I need to check in my T6 because its no remote on webasto, and I have to add.This is a really interesting post. I am working on a friends van at the moment. It's come all the way from northern Norway to Scotland to be converted from a panel van to a family shuttle.
It has a Webasto coolant heater, factory installed, with remote module but NO REMOTES! I have ordered a new remote but will need to code it once it arrives. I've done a VCDS scan and noticed there is no label file for the aux heater. I haven't seen this before.
Do I need a label file before I can interrogate the module properly to code this remote or am I missing something obvious?
I have posted a request on the VCDS forum for some help but I noticed @mmi seems to be the resident expert in this section
VW Transporter 2012 - Webasto Aux heater remote coding (label file none)
Any help or guidance gratefully received.
Craig.
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